IRC logs for #automotive for Tuesday, 2019-03-19

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dl9pfmontjoie: hi12:55
montjoiehello12:55
dl9pfso whats about the hidden wgt's / services12:56
montjoieso does we have a way to know that a wgtfile is "hidden"12:56
dl9pfyes, it is in the manifest (config.xml)12:56
montjoieor contain an hidden package/service12:56
dl9pfwell in general only the services are hidden12:56
montjoieany reason to hiddent services ?12:57
jobolthey are launched  on need12:57
dl9pfjobol: can you confirm ? Is there a way to check a wgt file for the hidden flag using the existing tools ?12:57
dl9pfjobol: how can we list all apps and services (regardless of hidden or not) ?12:57
jobolfor apps  a propoerty/permission allows to not be listed for display12:58
jobolI wanted to add an option for listing ALL installed app12:58
jobolbut used systemd to do that at the end12:59
montjoieeven with systemd I see nothing12:59
montjoieand launched on need is not a good reason to hidden them13:00
jobolmontjoie, I'm not saying this is a good reason13:00
montjoiecan the hidden status could be reverted ?13:03
jobolI wanted to implment an option that allows to retrieve all app of any types13:04
jobolbut not done today13:04
montjoiejobol: does this task exists (for adding a depends on)13:06
jobolmontjoie, did you try "systemctl list-units --all afm*"13:07
jobolI check13:07
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montjoiejobol: yes but I will retry13:08
jobolno open task found ... I create one ...13:09
montjoieI could as workaround try to unzip the wgt and grep for hidden13:13
jobolWhat's your need?13:14
montjoieI work on SPEC-1850, so I install a wgt file and test all possible afm action13:16
jobolSPEC-162113:16
montjoiebut with hidden wget file I cannot do anything13:16
joboloooops13:16
jobolSPEC-227213:16
jobolnot 162113:16
montjoieit is worst, since it said "ok installed" but nothing works after13:17
jobolright, you can't launch it or list it13:17
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khilmandl9pf: any idea why "recheck" didn't seem to retrigger CIB(T) jobs?  https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/20729/ ?    We both tried, and no jobs were triggered.14:21
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jlrmagnusMorning15:36
waltminerkhilman Jan-Simon is OOO today15:37
waltminerMorning Magnus15:37
furyHi guys15:37
jlrmagnusHello fury15:38
furyhow's it hangin?15:38
waltminerStill on jury duty fury?15:38
furyYup15:38
furyMost thrilling time of my life15:38
waltminerHope the judge doesn't you on IRC15:38
waltminersee15:38
furyI'm in the waiting room, haven't been called up yet this week...I put the phone on DND once I'm in the court room15:39
jlrmagnusOnce you enter you should put your ring signal to the intro of Law & Order.15:40
furyI was thinking Terminator 2, Bad to the Bone...15:40
montjoiehello gerrit.automotivelinux.org changed ssh key, normal ?16:36
skz81I guess this is related to : "Linux Foundation project services are no longer offered in an inhouse16:39
skz81datacenter.  Projects are standardized on cloud providers like AWS, in this case."16:39
skz81done : Saturday, March 16, 2019 @ 17:00 - 19:00 UTC16:40
skz81montjoie, ^16:40
montjoiemhh changing ssh key without communication16:42
smurraymontjoie: It was mentioned on the mailing list, there's a new supposedly stable gerritssh hostname iirc.  It is indeed less than optimal IMO16:44
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waltminer<---- check this out.16:47
montjoieok thanks16:56
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bananacheck it out now17:55
bananafunk soul brutha17:55
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nickwisewill AGL deal with any OBD data at all?22:23
mranostaynickwise: define deal.. there is a can bus service22:25
nickwiseWill it be mostly for driver amenity or will there be some engine controls involved?22:32
nickwiseThe can bus service is simply an endpoint for manufacturers to use? Or will there be active development in controls22:33
nickwiseI hope that's clear-ish?22:35
mranostayCurrently it is mostly used for reading engine speed using the standard PIDs22:36
nickwiseany plans to develop into remote diagnostics? At least for the standard PIDS22:37
nickwiseI'm sure proprietary is a whole seperate can of worms22:37
mranostaythere is a meta telematics layer  in development22:42
mranostaynickwise: some reference https://static.sched.com/hosted_files/aglammjapan2019/51/Building%20an%20AGL%20Telematics%20Profile%20Demonstration%20Platform.pdf22:43
nickwiseI'll check it out, thanks!22:46
waltminernickwise there is a Vehicle Signal manager that allows you to create the message set for CAN that your specific vehicle is using22:47
nickwisethanks! found the github for the vsm22:52
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