| dylan | understood, thank you. it's a shame there are no diy-oriented open projects around car infotainment. | 00:01 |
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| leon-anavi | hi | 08:00 |
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| [AD]Turbo | yo all | 08:35 |
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| leon-anavi | fury, cool! made my day :) | 15:16 |
| fury | leon-anavi: :D | 15:17 |
| fury | i like to make people's day | 15:17 |
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| mranostay | fury: Dirty Harry style? | 16:32 |
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| fury | mranostay: hehe I remember watching that with my dad when I was a kid | 17:07 |
| fury | He had a wall of video tapes, laserdiscs, and later DVDs, so many awesome movies | 17:08 |
| fury | Them boxes of laserdiscs coulda killed somebody | 17:09 |
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| CTtpollard | I remember seeing laserdisc for the first time | 17:12 |
| CTtpollard | I thought they were a parody | 17:13 |
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| fury | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmZexg8sxyk <-- official theme song for AGL Electric Eel? :P | 17:18 |
| mranostay | CTtpollard: i am waiting for hipsters to bring that back... | 17:19 |
| fury | Laserdiscs were awesome. Uncompressy goodness, built-in exercise in the middle of the movie "please flip from side A to side B" | 17:19 |
| CTtpollard | haha | 17:20 |
| mranostay | fury: all this was before my time.. but i think hipsters would like videodisc | 17:26 |
| mranostay | it is vinyl after all | 17:26 |
| CTtpollard | yeh when I said 'seeing laserdisc for the first time' I meant via a youtube video O:) | 17:27 |
| mranostay | CTtpollard: ok i was wondering if everyone here was over 50 :) | 17:29 |
| JEEB | fury: videolan isbsupposed to get laserdisc specs ;) | 17:29 |
| fury | The first portable Laserdisc player is going to be a real hit. iPod who? | 17:30 |
| fury | I'm not over 50, my dad is quite the audio/video fanatic though :P | 17:30 |
| fury | so I got to see all the cool technologies as a kid. I saw HD back when it was umpteen thousand dollars to get stuff put together just to PLAY it | 17:31 |
| fury | He used to work at Thomson | 17:32 |
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| fury | We had more Proscan, GE, RCA TVs and VCRs than you could shake a pointy CRT at | 17:32 |
| mranostay | JEEB: why? Is Philip's and co being nice and releasing them? or did someone RE it | 17:33 |
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| fury | Gonna get the 11.6" GeChic touchscreen tomorrow. It's a little smaller but it's got the rear dock that probably makes it a little easier to manage the cables. Has anyone done landscape home screen / demo apps yet? I'd like to, some time, if I get time (trying to move my to do list to my "done" list :P), but if someone's already gotten that started I don't wanna duplicate or step on anyone's toes | 17:50 |
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| mranostay | fury: that may be tricky if homescreen has it hardcoded | 17:52 |
| mranostay | which i think it does | 17:52 |
| fury | yeah, pretty sure resolutions are hardcoded, i was thinking to either change the hardcoded values to 1920x1080, etc. and change the QML around, or (and this is my "dream big" gear in overdrive) make the home screen / window manager resolution/orientation independent | 17:56 |
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| mranostay | fury: i think the icon sizes are hardcoded | 17:58 |
| fury | yeah | 17:58 |
| mranostay | fury: which is a design oversight because they are svgs | 18:01 |
| mranostay | easy to scale | 18:01 |
| fury | wonder what it'd take to make all this stuff rotateable, high DPI smart, etc. | 18:02 |
| fury | probably two very different things | 18:02 |
| fury | i got enough experience fiddling with the QML in the demo apps, i'm like, How Hard Could It Be™ | 18:03 |
| fury | famous last words :P | 18:04 |
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| fury | fast forward 3 years later, me: "can't sleep, Qt will eat me, can't sleep, Qt will eat me" | 18:04 |
| fury | fetal position | 18:04 |
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| mranostay | yeah pretty sure you can't just do that in qml easily | 18:09 |
| fury | hmm... the demo app we wrote in QML seems to handle it pretty well on the iPad, it's just using percentages and not a fixed screen size | 18:09 |
| fury | looks a little weird in the animation, but this wouldn't be transitioning between landscape and portrait regularly at runtime, just a configurable screen mode that's set on startup or something like that | 18:10 |
| mranostay | fury: heh remember all QML events happen in one thread.. so only so many things you can add before it becomes horribly slow | 18:11 |
| mranostay | sure there are worker scripts but the output of them has to go back to the single qml thread | 18:11 |
| fury | it already seems to be horribly slow...even scrolling through the media player it's like 15-30 FPS | 18:11 |
| fury | wonder what that's baout | 18:11 |
| fury | about* | 18:11 |
| fury | on the iPad scrolling and swiping is 120 FPS, even with a QML app, then again it's a 2x3 core beast with a sliiiiightly more powerful GPU than in the minnowboard I'm guessing | 18:12 |
| fury | but just scrolling through a list, i dunno, seems like that should be easy to hit 60 FPS | 18:13 |
| fury | i recall having the same experience on porter, which is quad core and i thought it had a pretty good GPU | 18:14 |
| fury | so many little bits and pieces to try to figure out | 18:15 |
| fury | multitouch, too, haven't seen it accept more than one finger yet | 18:15 |
| fury | i should probably jira some/all of these | 18:16 |
| fury | oh and i keep forgetting to do that with the wifi issues i found | 18:16 |
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| JEEB | mranostay: the usual snail mail way of "donate to a better need" :) | 18:56 |
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| mdp | fury, your app actually needs to use multitouchpoint support..and that assumes your input driver claims to be multitouch capable so qt is aware of it | 19:36 |
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| fury | it works multitouchy on the iPad, so i'm guessing the Qt side of it is working. but the AGL input system doesn't enable multitouch as far as i can tell | 19:36 |
| mdp | fury, that all works fine in qt5 for me if those two aspect are met.. | 19:37 |
| fury | or at least, not on this screen (the gechic 15") | 19:37 |
| mdp | it's the qt5 input library | 19:37 |
| fury | but it is a multitouch screen | 19:37 |
| fury | hmm | 19:37 |
| mdp | yup, check your libinput reporting | 19:37 |
| mdp | go run something like qt flames to test this..it works fine on my multitouch display on linux | 19:38 |
| mdp | incidentally, I can load a singletouch f/w on my display and then it does not work fine ;) | 19:39 |
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