IRC logs for #automotive for Monday, 2017-07-24

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jobolhi all08:17
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akilawIn the gulp automation package in zebra it has gulpfile.js11:51
akilawhttps://github.com/akilawickey/zebra/blob/master/gulpfile.js11:51
akilawin there i found following lines11:51
akilawgulp.task('http', function() {11:51
akilaw    gulp.src('.')11:51
akilaw        .pipe(webserver({11:51
akilaw            port: 8090,11:51
akilaw            host: "localhost",11:51
akilaw            directoryListing: true,11:51
akilaw            open: false11:51
akilaw        }));11:51
akilaw});11:51
akilawHere is the place where http server is starting. So I think it's better to keep the gulp system inside the zebra. Can I have your idea about this?11:52
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zeenixakilaw: I think best you put this on the "Bring back HTTP server" ticket?12:18
akilawok sure zeenix12:19
zeenixbtw, you just dived into a very specific issue that most people here have no context about so that'll explain the lack of replies (also, many people are probably on vacation though)12:19
akilawOk zeenix12:19
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furyanyone else having trouble building dab or master for vayu?13:36
furybunch of qt recipes fail to build, input event manager, window manager, homescreen, etc...13:37
furyhttps://pastebin.com/rSPz2sBF13:43
CTtpollardall the segfaults13:45
furyyeah that seems pretty ugly13:45
furymaster for pi built fine tho13:45
furyi think?13:46
furystarting a new build for porter in a fresh dir just for funsies13:46
furychecking to see if i've botched my host system13:46
furybut i woulda thought the point of yocto was that it doesn't need many dependencies on the host since it builds almost everything it needs including the cross compiler13:47
CTtpollardsegfaults are not that uncommon, sometimes requires cleaning the offending package13:50
furyhmm13:50
CTtpollardI've had problems with race conditions with qt in yocto quite a few times, had to knock back the parallels (which means webkit takes even longer.....)13:51
furybitbake clean qt-*? :P13:51
furyI like how one bitbake isn't enough to keep all 20 cores busy, would it be a bad idea to fire up a second one in parallel in a different build dir sharing the same sstate/download cache?13:53
CTtpollardfury: you should be able to set it to take all your threads13:53
furyit does, sometimes, but there's choke points where it'll wait for one or two things to finish configuring/compiling. so it probably only maxes out the CPUs right after glibc is compiled or during qt compiles13:54
CTtpollardfury: I usually use for cleaning 'bitbake $recipe -C unpack' 'C' invalidates that stage & instructs bitbake to start again from there13:55
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furysounds good13:56
CTtpollardnote capital C13:56
furyif this one fails i'll just delete all things, cause that's a lot of recipes that failed O_o13:56
furywell, 613:57
furybut if i fix those 6 which ones fail after it and whatnot :P13:57
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dl9pfCTtpollard: these segfaults seem to be OOM . had no problems to build  the rc3 for vayu14:03
furyout of memory O_o14:04
furyi have 32 gigglebytes14:04
furydo i need to double it and add 30?14:04
CTtpollardI think there's some yocto documentation somewhere on the advised thread to memory ratio for local.conf14:05
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dl9pfCTtpollard: true. I had to limit it on a host with 8C + 16GB  as well. The heuristic on the parallelization generally works, but has its limits (NxM is still a lot worst case).14:33
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furysheeeit14:34
furynow i'm running out of disk space lol14:34
furyaaaaaand now this: https://pastebin.com/KAD0KFrZ14:39
furylow level can service needs kernel version 4.8?14:40
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dl9pffury: eyeroll ... silly check in the cmake templates15:08
dl9pfjobol: can you ping romain or ronan  ^^^  this should not be in the templates15:10
joboldl9pf, pinging ronan15:10
dl9pfjobol: tnx15:11
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dl9pfronan__: app-templates check for kernel 4.8 , this break a few boards. e.g. the joule, too ...15:11
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dl9pfwhy do we require kernel >= 4.8 ?   enforcing it in the  cmake templates is a problem15:12
ronan__Only low-level-can binding should check the kernel version >4.815:13
dl9pfthis breaks on :   porter (dab!) , intel joule (dab + master), and others15:14
dl9pfwhy do we need >= 4.8 specifically in there ?15:14
ronan__low-level-can binding uses some new functionnality appeared at 4.815:16
dl9pfhmpf ... then we cannot include it in dab by default in the recipes ... as half of the boards is <= 4.815:17
dl9pfsame on master until we migrated everything to pyro ...15:17
dl9pfthe app can still be built using the SDK15:18
dl9pfbut not as recipe.15:18
dl9pfcould you submit a changeset to remove it from the packagegroups/image(s) ?15:18
ronan__OK, I'm going to15:18
dl9pfthanks !15:19
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ronan__You can find review here: https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/1033715:32
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furyronan__: removing that file doesn't seem to help, when building for porter...do i need to do something to force its removal from the previous build attempt?18:12
furyseems bitbake -c clean low-level-can-service didn't do the trick18:18
dl9pfhmm different message or the same ?18:20
furysame18:20
* dl9pf think ... think18:21
dl9pfwhat image do you build ?18:21
furyporter dab18:21
furybut i manually applied the same change as in 1033718:21
dl9pfreproducing ...18:22
furythink it's because it's low-level-can-service, not low-level-can-generator as in this change18:24
furylow-level-can-service is in meta-app-framework18:24
furyaccording to the bitbake-layers show-recipes18:25
mranostayfury: yeah reported that friday18:25
furyooh18:25
mranostayfury: building for porter i take?18:26
furyyep18:26
furyi'm behind the times18:26
furysure enough, https://jira.automotivelinux.org/projects/SPEC/issues/SPEC-772?filter=allopenissues18:26
furyso sad that i had to return the minnowboard, not sure what i'm doing wrong trying to build for vayu, then not even good ol' porter is building :P18:27
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dl9pffury: remove "low-level-can-service" from the package group then.18:37
dl9pfmeta-agl-demo: recipes-appfw/packagegroups/packagegroup-agl-appfw-connectivity.bb18:38
hitendraany guidence on how to get "pip" (python package manager) installed on AGL? either at runtime or buildtime...18:39
dl9pfhitendra: buildtime ... you can try this:18:39
dl9pfin your local.conf :18:40
dl9pfeither18:41
dl9pfadd18:41
dl9pfIMAGE_INSTALL_append = " python-pip"18:41
dl9pfor18:41
dl9pfIMAGE_INSTALL_append = " python3-pip"18:41
dl9pf(note: the space after " is intentional)18:41
dl9pfat the end of the file18:41
dl9pfhth18:42
hitendrakool, i will try it out, thanks!18:42
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hitendra@dl9pf, I tried to do something similar for apt-get, but could not figure how to get it to recognize sources, so anytime i run apt-get, it errors out saying "The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."18:58
hitendraany thoughts?19:00
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mranostayhitendra: apt-get in AGL?19:05
mranostaythat for sure isn't possible19:05
hitendrapurly for development purpose, if you need stuff and want to try something quick, without having to spend cycles of rebuilding the images, everytime you need another package/utility19:06
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furyalright19:19
furydeleting my sstate cache, downloads cache, all build directories, and starting from scratch19:19
furyseg faults are killing me and i dunno why :D19:19
furyand i ran out of disk space and dunno which downloads are still needed19:19
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* mranostay always knew fury was an android19:46
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furycylon*20:04
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dl9pfhitendra: no, apt-get is not possibly as mranostay said. Yocto constructs an image based on what you added to "IMAGE_INSTALL" in you configuration. So it is a tailored image by default.20:21
dl9pfhitendra: for the next development cycle, we intend to build rpm packages  so you can install from a binary feed.20:21
dl9pfhitendra: note: you can already expose your rpm feed and add a package manager (iirc dnf) to your image. Check the yocto documentation for PACKAGE MANAGEMENT .20:21
dl9pfthe rpm's are already in tmp/deploy/rpm  , just not indexed or served via a webserver . But still this is just what you also have in the image.20:22
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hitendranice, thanks!21:03
dl9pffury: https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/1034121:13
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dl9pfmranostay:  ^^21:16
furySweet. Will check tomorrow. My car finally got out of the body shop after the 2nd wreck in 7 months21:21
* mranostay makes note not to drive in TN21:22
furyHoping to sell it and get me something cheap right now :P21:22
furyDon't drive in Kentucky either :P21:22
mranostayah right21:22
furyIn fact, don't drive anywhere. Most vehicles are infected by the human virus, a few companies are working on the cure but it might be another 10-20 years...21:23
mranostayfury: 20-40 is more likely :)21:24
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zmcfury: Wow, I'm glad you're not on the road.22:00
fury:D22:01
furyIt wasn't me this time. Someone hit it while I was parked22:01
furyThey had the decency to come into the restaurant and find me, though22:02
furySo their insurance company paid for it. As for the first wreck...well, rain sucks, someone in front of me slammed on their brakes and their car stopped, I slammed on my brakes, only mine didn't stop22:02
zmcWell that's good.  Be glad a self-driving car didn't come into the resteraunt to find you. :D22:02
mdpfury, it's only paranoia if it's an _unreasonable_ fear that they are out to get you.22:03
furyHehe22:03
zmcfury: Usually slamming on the brakes is the wrong thing to do. But lessons learned I suppose.22:03
fury'Twas a left turn, not sure if there was a better thing I coulda done. ABS kicked in and I heard grinding, but I guess the conditions were too slippery for it to stop me22:04
mdpmranostay: 40 years is where people finally realize that the AIs are deliberately killing us.22:05
furyWhat if they're already doing that?22:05
mdponce they've killed off the Creators22:05
mranostaymeh don't really want to live past 70 anyway :)22:05
zmcABS actually lenghens stopping distance as opposed to threshold braking in some situations.  What it does give you is steerage though.  Grinding was probably the brake system pulsing for you after detecting the lockup.22:08
mranostayheh i've gotten the ABS to trigger before22:09
mranostayalthough it was on ice of course22:09
zmcmdp: I don't think that's in the agenda.  Right now safety and longevity are ahead, since they make people money.22:09
zmcHey while there are some active people in here.. has anyone gotten the latest qemu images to boot?22:10
furyI love driving on ice. I remember in my first car, my first time driving in such weather conditions, on an overpass, someone ahead of me stopped all of a sudden so I had to stop, only, there was a big ol truck to the left of me and nothing but air to the right, so I pumped the brakes and went into a fishtail, was good times22:12
furySteering to the left, steering to the right, eventually came to a stop and probably drove 15 mph the rest of the trip22:12
furyI haven't tried qemu in a while22:13
zmcI love snow and ice.  Makes you have to plan ahead and feel grip levels underfoot.  Also lets you feel the character of your car and setup.22:13
zmcAlthough it's good to practice those things in an empty lot before heading out22:14
furyRear wheel drive is fun on slippery roads22:14
zmcRWD is great.  I drove a FWD SUV in the snow once. Never again. It was horrid.22:14
furyYeah. My old 94 T-bird, my first car...not sure if there's anything like it out there nowadays, but I kinda miss it22:15
furyWas half tempted to pick up the last 97 T-bird I saw on Craigslist, but it has no A/C, so yeah...22:16
zmcLooks alot like the mustang platform22:16
zmcor maybe the small lincoln22:16
zmcnvm lincoln cancelled the RWD. Chrysler 300 or so then22:19
mdpzmc, my 0718 builds boot..but haven't tried the latest.22:20
zmcmdp: Are they available online somewhere?  The ones I have tried crash shortly after loading the userland22:21
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mdpzmc, not atm, but sending a known good one up...ETA 20 minutes. have to hit the road now but will try to drop the link in here in a bit.22:27
zmcmdp: ok, thanks!22:28
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