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| leon-anavi | morning | 06:07 |
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| [AD]Turbo | ciao all | 07:38 |
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| mdp | mourning | 12:16 |
| mdp | dl9pf: I'm curious if your comment on the qcow2 and vmdk images was intended to mean that you didn't want them generated by default. I read it ambiguously... | 12:19 |
| dl9pf | mdp: currently my headache is disk-space usage 'by default' (download.automotivelinux.org) . I know for ease-of-use, we want a vmdk and qcow and vdi all at the same time, but tbh it is just one conversion step away from the hddimg. | 12:23 |
| dl9pf | . So I'd prefer only one image type being rendered - and compressed. I know this is one use-case. We might consider enforcing the compression only in CI. And have it not on by default if built locally. | 12:23 |
| dl9pf | Boilerplate: use hddimg.xz or wic.xz | 12:23 |
| dl9pf | atm | 12:23 |
| mdp | ok, makes good sense to me. I'm thinking then it should be vmdk.xz for the average user then. I'll update the series to match.. | 12:25 |
| mdp | incidentally, the existing runqemu support doesn't use ROOT_VM so that path still is broken but has been forever. also, we package up a broken qemu in the sdk due to lack of sdl, but that looks to not be easily fixable until the move to pyro. | 12:27 |
| mdp | atm, I think we care much more about getting an image and proper partid based root though | 12:28 |
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| dl9pf | vmdk with proper root=UUID ... | 12:41 |
| dl9pf | yes | 12:42 |
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| mdp | right, that's what I'm testing now on a fresh build | 13:06 |
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| mdp | need to doublecheck vbox..I default use qemu cause I have personal hate for vbox. | 13:07 |
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| fury | what was the final consensus on the 4.4% 4.8% bbappends? leave usb devices out of 4.4% or keep them in? (they were previously in before i yanked them out to the 4.%) | 13:44 |
| mdp | ask before this ends | 13:44 |
| fury | sounds good | 13:44 |
| fury | got em | 13:57 |
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| JungP | Hi | 14:00 |
| fury | hi :D | 14:01 |
| JungP | I need to know how much an average ABS brake system "weighs" when you push on the pedal | 14:01 |
| JungP | I'm going to be under weight restrictions for the next few days and want to figure out when I can drive again | 14:02 |
| JungP | errr | 14:02 |
| JungP | just saw the topic too... | 14:02 |
| fury | hmm. that sounds like a hardware problem :P | 14:02 |
| JungP | well there should still be car peeps in here no? | 14:02 |
| fury | sorry, wish i knew :D | 14:02 |
| fury | stick around for a bit, maybe someone does know | 14:03 |
| JungP | yer... plan to :-) | 14:03 |
| CTtpollard | JungP: your vehicle is going to be under weight restrictions? | 14:06 |
| JungP | no I am | 14:06 |
| JungP | no more then a few pounds for a few days | 14:06 |
| JungP | I don't know how to judge how much pushing on a break pedal "weighs" | 14:07 |
| CTtpollard | &, you're asking for the force required to apply the break pedal | 14:07 |
| JungP | yeah basically... the car, the momentum, etc | 14:08 |
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| JungP | wondering how many pounds one is moving when they actually stop a car | 14:08 |
| CTtpollard | lots of variables there I would guess, how much power assistance the abs applies & the drum / disc type | 14:09 |
| CTtpollard | there's gotta be a study out there though | 14:09 |
| fury | yeah. probably too many variables. i had one car where i could lightly press on the brake and it'd coast for miles, had to press hard to actually stop (probably harder than 3 lbs), newer ones i lightly press on the brake and i just about go through the windshield | 14:11 |
| CTtpollard | I have a rough feeling I've read it's about 450N (I haven't studied automotive mechanics for years), not sure what that would be in lbf | 14:12 |
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| JungP | N is newtons yeah? | 14:15 |
| JungP | I'm not into cars at all but I need to know cause for 48 hours no more then a couple pounds & after a week I can be at about 10-15 | 14:15 |
| CTtpollard | yeh, metric / SI sorry | 14:15 |
| JungP | I'm metric too... mostly... but I've never had to deal with a newton :-p | 14:16 |
| JungP | learned pounds for weights but everything else is mettric :-/ | 14:16 |
| CTtpollard | anyway, back to code for me :) | 14:17 |
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| fury | https://www.quora.com/How-much-force-is-needed-to-press-the-acclerator-brake-and-clutch-of-a-car | 14:19 |
| CTtpollard | 450N is 101lbf, not far off! | 14:20 |
| CTtpollard | must have read it somewhere | 14:21 |
| JungP | good job :-) | 14:22 |
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| fury | hey now, shouldn't you take him out for dinner a couple times first? | 14:23 |
| JungP | oh | 14:25 |
| JungP | uhh | 14:25 |
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| JungP | guess it IS tradition... | 14:25 |
| JungP | so if this channel is software for cars... there any secrets to make my kia a beast of a car software wise? | 14:27 |
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| fury | secrets? yes :P unfortunately most of them unbeknownst to us | 14:31 |
| fury | so it depends on what level of software you'd like... if you want it to integrate with the car's steering wheel and instrument cluster, that'd need some secret CAN messaging sauce that automakers tend to like to keep secret (security through obscurity? dunno) | 14:32 |
| fury | if you just want to tear out your existing head unit and cram a new one in there, that doesn't need any secret sauce... does it have space for a double din unit or is it all pretty much baked in and you don't see an easy way to open it? | 14:34 |
| fury | my ford's got the old sync 2.0 / myfordtouch system, leaves much to be desired, but they didn't make it easy to replace, looks like i'd need some power tools if i wanted a different one - getting ready to sell that car, though, so prolly not worth the risk to break it :D | 14:36 |
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| CTtpollard | my polo has a tapedeck :) | 14:37 |
| fury | as cool as it would be to just be able to put your own software on your existing system, none of them that i know of make that possible, so you gotta put some different hardware in there | 14:38 |
| fury | classic! | 14:38 |
| fury | i have a CD changer in my broke sable :P | 14:39 |
| fury | need to get rid of that car too | 14:39 |
| JungP | I remember cd changers | 14:40 |
| JungP | they were briefly popular in like... 1990 | 14:40 |
| JungP | (no not the 90s... just 1990) | 14:41 |
| mdp | mranostay: do you know what a CD is? | 14:41 |
| fury | hehe. company i work for actually put the first CD changer on a motorcycle | 14:41 |
| fury | killer vibes, man | 14:42 |
| JungP | hmm... is there any freeware for a scan tool? I have one that someone screwed with & has a license issue now but can't afford a license for it | 14:42 |
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| JungP | well thanks | 15:22 |
| JungP | ta | 15:22 |
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| mranostay | mdp: as soda can/beer coasters | 15:30 |
| mranostay | good old AOL CDs | 15:30 |
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| mdp | mranostay: wheels for mousetrap race car projects. | 15:34 |
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| mranostay | mdp: also were good bb gun targets as a kid :) | 15:50 |
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| fury | armor | 15:52 |
| fury | http://www.lifeaftercoffee.com/2007/05/16/armor-made-from-cds/ | 15:52 |
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| waltminer | mranostay can you confirm that SPEC-730 is on dab already? | 15:56 |
| mranostay | ok will do | 15:57 |
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| mranostay | waltminer: seems no. will cherry-pick for dab | 15:58 |
| waltminer | thanks | 15:59 |
| fury | https://software.intel.com/en-us/node/735252 hehe 300 GHz graphics clock. smokin :D | 16:07 |
| mranostay | fury: heh that is EOL so you know :) | 16:09 |
| fury | sheeeeeit. is there a watt coming out soon? :P | 16:09 |
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| fury | shame my minnowboards are broke, I really like how fast they are | 16:12 |
| mranostay | don't hold your breath on that | 16:12 |
| fury | is there a way I can just tell Linux to never use address 0x00? | 16:12 |
| fury | I wish I wouldn't find stuff after it EOLs...the joule looks like a nice form factor, and that little thing solves a lot of hardware sourcing issues at once (eMMC, maybe fast? and ram and CPU and wifi and Bluetooth). Nvidia Jetson TX is another kinda like that | 16:16 |
| mranostay | fury: let's just say i worked in the group at intel that did the Joule, Gallieo, and Edison... and 90% got pink slips :).. oh and all those are EOLed :) | 16:19 |
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| fury | aww | 16:21 |
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| mranostay | pesky timezones.. no jobol :) | 16:26 |
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| dl9pf | khilman: doh ... we see the prompt in the log of the m3 ... right ? | 17:46 |
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| khilman | dl9pf: the "login:" prompt, yes. And even the last login timestamp after the root login attempt | 17:47 |
| khilman | just no shell prompt | 17:47 |
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| dl9pf | ah ok, i thought we see the shell prompt ... I just saw I had a job with "test_image_prompt. 'root@MACHINE:~#' " and wondered about the m3 | 17:48 |
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| dl9pf | ah ok, i thought we see the shell prompt ... I just saw I had a job with "test_image_prompt: 'root@MACHINE:~#' " and wondered about the m3 | 17:49 |
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