IRC logs for #automotive for Friday, 2017-07-14

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smurrayhitendra: the yocto default policy is to backport upstream fixes onto the version of OpenSSL that a particular yocto release shipped with, it is very rare that they would update it to a new version. If you need actual 1.02l, you'll need to backport the new recipe from the master branch of upstream00:26
smurraymranostay: rtl_fm and the derived code in the radio binding do not use gnu radio, but the custom hacked decoder that fury mentioned00:27
furywhat's the best cheap LTE dongle i can plug into a USB port or something like that? interested in doing a headless device with wireless access and camera for video streaming and whatnot00:30
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hitendrathanks smurray@, also fury@ pointed me to a post talking about some TP-Link wifi dongles use the Realtek chipset, my dongle seem to be the one, so i'm adding the drivers and testing to check if that's case, will confim it first thing tomorrow00:47
hitendra*some* dongle meaning the one we're using i.e. same as on ces demo 2017 wiki00:48
chbaeFYI: hitendra: I updated openssl to opembedded-core and you can find 1.02l in master branch of openembedded-core.02:10
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hitendrathanks chbae@03:02
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leon-anavimorning03:42
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chbaehi leon-anavi :)04:30
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leon-anavihi chbae how are you?05:01
chbaegood. how are you leon?05:02
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leon-anavigood, working... and waiting for the weekend :)05:06
leon-anavistarted a bit earlier today cause I have to leave in the late afternoon to the sea side :)05:07
chbaeI’m also waiting for weekend. :)05:33
chbaecool05:33
leon-anavi:)05:36
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[AD]Turbogood morning automotivers07:43
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akilawhi all14:06
akilawI want to run this sample application inside the gdp qemu target machine14:06
akilawhttps://github.com/akilawickey/zebra/blob/master/test.html14:07
akilawzebra packages has been successfully added in the target machine ☺14:08
akilawAfter adding the zebra recipe to gdp and build gdpde_modules/zebkit/index.htm selecting target as Qemu. I booted the machine and I got zebra packages on location14:08
akilaw /usr/lib/nol14:08
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akilawlocation is /usr/lib/node_modules/zebkit/index.html14:26
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CTtpollardis the sdimg file from the ALG download server working for raspi3 or do I need to use the rootfs & uimage?14:37
CTtpollard*AGL14:37
CTtpollarddo you know leon-anavi?14:37
furythe sdimg worked for me a week ago (master snapshot 07-06 b445) as did the dab rc2 release (3.99.2) but not sure if anything's changed since then14:38
CTtpollardcheers fury14:39
furyno prob :D14:39
leon-anaviCTtpollard, I am always building my own images :)14:44
CTtpollardleon-anavi: Yeh :) I just wondered if sdimg was still working, I thought I read something about switching to rootfs & uimage recently14:48
CTtpollardmaybe I'm wrong, it is friday afternoon after all :)14:48
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leon-anaviyes, if the agl-osta feature is enabled at build time, the output image relies on u-boot.14:53
leon-anaviI have to go, time to leave on a short trip during the weekend, see you next week :)14:54
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nathani_thanks fury mranostay smurray.15:42
furyto actually answer your question, gnuradio might be a better thing to use for a higher quality demo, but I'm not sure that anybody would actually use an SDR, gnuradio or not, in production. so I guess it depends on how much work it'd be to change from using the rtl_fm based code to something based on gnuradio. If you'd like to fool around with the demo radio app to replace it, I'm sure patches are welcome :)15:50
furyI have an annoying high pitched whine in my case under the rtl_fm based demo radio, but I'm planning on replacing the SDR with a "real" tuner that can do more better15:52
nathani_what real tuner are you thinking about?15:52
furyI could get rid of the whine from the command line version of rtl_fm, though, which is weird, cause passing the same parameters (or so I thought) doesn't do the same thing in the demo radio app15:52
smurrayfury: I find the whine comes and goes on my setup, so who knows15:53
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furyI was prolly gonna start looking at any tuner that has a driver in the mainline kernel, http://elixir.free-electrons.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/media/radio15:55
furycause I don't feel like writing a new driver :P15:55
smurrayfury: mdp had some ideas, might be worth pinging him next week when he's back from vacation15:56
furysmurray: weird. when I listen through the command line it's almost pristine (I'm in a big metal building with horrible reception, surprised I get any channels)15:56
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furyI compared the source code and I couldn't find any differences in how they worked, as far as the parameters that got rid of the whine on the command line utility15:57
nathani_I did some testing the other day from the command line, i was able to get some reception, but nothing like my car radio15:57
nathani_using a laptop and gnuradio, it was very comparable to my car15:58
smurrayfury: I'll poke around some more, the configuration bit is a bit messy15:58
smurraynathani_: that's kind of an apples and oranges comparison, the rtl_fm decoding is purposely simplified to work on low-end h/w, a full gnu radio chain likely has better filtering15:59
smurraynathani_: the issue is you're not going to want to burn that much CPU to listen to the radio15:59
nathani_absolutely15:59
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smurraynathani_: there are many phillips and silabs AM/FM tuner chips, issue is none of them are available in a cheap, convenient form-factor16:00
furythis minnowboard turbot quad core is so beefy, though, might be fun to try gnuradio on it16:00
nathani_yes, that's what i've found. hardly any even have demo boards.16:01
smurrayfury: I have no doubt it'll work better, I even discussed it as a possible project for AGL with gnu radio folks at one point16:01
smurrayfury: but it'd be likely easy to build something that had problems on rpi, porter, etc.16:02
furyyeah16:02
smurrayit's the tension between viable demo and production software. No vendor will use SDR for AM/FM in a product16:03
smurrayso the question is what's good enough for a basic demo16:04
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furyI demoed AGL for a few minutes to the local OSS meet up group, turned on the radio for a few seconds then quickly went back to Bluetooth cause the ringing, think that probably qualifies as "good enough"16:06
furyone of them wants to put it in his car :P16:07
furyI'll have to add a section on "can you put it in your car?" when I make the full presentation. I've seen a couple people here and there who've wanted to do that, and there's lots of DIY car head unit projects out there16:11
furyobviously it's meant as a starting point for a product, but as-is, it's got just about all the things DIYers want16:12
smurrayfury: mdp was looking at some of the diy carputer sites for radio h/w ideas, it's kind of slim pickings as streaming seems to have killed the USB AM/FM adapter market16:16
smurrayfury: he had something in mind to experiment with, but I don't have a link handy16:16
furyYeah, that was my thought too, most people with the wherewithal to do this have smartphones, smartphones have plenty of ways to get audio, I usually use Pandora or YouTube for music myself16:18
furysome of them even have FM tuners built into them lol16:18
furyor you can fake it with iHeartRadio in some areas16:19
furywould probably be even neater to have a reference implementation of SDL, from what I understand, that talks directly to apps like Pandora, Spotify, and iHeart Auto16:26
furyI think it's getting integrated into GDP for next release16:26
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furyman these random lockups are annoying...did I just happen to get a couple of dud boards or is there something that AGL is doing which it doesn't like that GDP is not doing?16:41
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smurrayfury: nothing on the serial console, I guess?16:45
furynope...got my cables in yesterday and nothing shows up on serial when it happens16:51
furyI ran GDP all night with the little nav mockup, but AGL will 100% of the time lock up some time during the night and 2-3 times during the day16:52
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furyI need to add debug to the boot command line to be sure though16:54
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mranostaymorning17:23
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furymornin :D17:33
furyhow's it hangin?17:33
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nathani_I recently changed my e-mail that I'm using with git. Changing my gerrit contact e-mail and updating my ssh key, didn't seem to work. So I registered a new account. Does someone have to approve me in order to submit changes for review?18:51
nathani_I'm still getting a permission denied (publickey) error18:51
mranostaypretty sure there is a settings field to add different emails in gerrit19:00
nathani_I did try that first, but i got the key error. so i assumed the email was the problem19:01
nathani_i'll ask simon?19:01
mranostaysometimes you'll have issues if your email doesn't match your systems username19:01
mranostayyou could enable the repo debug to see what the ssh command it is using19:02
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furysheeeeit. the minnowboard running GDP did lock up19:55
furyguess i got a couple of duds19:55
furyeither that or two equally bad power supplies?19:55
nathani_mranostay, yes git review is attempting to use my computer's username for login20:02
mranostaythere is some .gitconfig magic you can do iirc20:03
nathani_yes, glad I didn't bug Jan-Simon :)20:11
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furyaaaaaaaaaaaaand agl locked up again. this time i have the debug option set in the boot args. but still nothing showing in the serial console except a bunch of these about every 90 seconds:20:24
fury[11351.077098] systemd-journald[167]: Sent WATCHDOG=1 notification.20:24
furythat was the last thing i saw20:24
furyhttps://pastebin.com/FhB1EjdY20:27
furythink the last thing i can think to try is to use a lab power supply with a 6A capacity, but given that the options they sold it with are 5v2a or 5v4a, i would think my 5v4a and 5v3a power supplies ought to work just fine20:29
mranostayfury: iirc 4A is good enough20:29
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furyyeah. i'm gonna try the same power supplies with my wandboards just to double check20:31
smurrayinteresting that the paclient segfaulted.  Have you tried booting up with memtest86 and testing the memory?20:34
furynope, that's a good idea20:34
smurraya bit unlikely, but possible20:35
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furysmurray: yep, memtest ischoking on the second cpu core on one of them, trying to reboot the other one into a parallel cpu mode right now (since it's not the default)21:47
furylooks like the lsb gets set to 021:48
furyyep, happening on both of them21:48
furyonly with the second core, though, weird21:49
furythe other three cores haven21:49
furyhjaven't spta out any errors21:49
furyboy, my fingers sure are spitting out some errors tho21:50
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smurrayfury: that kind of sounds like a BIOS bug21:51
smurrayfury: or worse, a board issue21:52
furythey're getting the same errors21:52
furyhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PkKvTr9I/21:52
furygot the hammer test to fail on the first cpu core22:05
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furypinged the mailing list and contacted the vendor to see if they have the same issue, we'll see how it goes i guess22:23
furysmurray: thanks for the suggestion to try memtest, saves me from having to figure out how to get the wandboard going again :P22:24
furyor get another power supply22:25
furywith that pattern that the LSB is set to 00 or 01 in the tests that it fails, I guess as long as whatever OS doesn't use address 0 it'd be fine?22:26
furyvery first byte of ram if it's lsb first22:27
furywhich i assume it is22:28
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