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| filadome | my honda only needs an oil change once a year. is it a good idea to let a mechanic check it out before then? | 01:05 |
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| fury | probably | 02:07 |
| mranostay | what wait i'm suppose to change the oil in my car?!?!? | 02:08 |
| mranostay | is this a new thing? | 02:08 |
| fury | you shaddap with your tesla magical unicorn that doesn't need oil changes :P | 02:09 |
| fury | is there a way to tell what AGL version i'm using? the settings screen still says 3.0 CC lol | 02:10 |
| fury | pretty sure i flashed dab or a master snapshot tho | 02:10 |
| mranostay | fury: heh joking.. i'd never buy an electric car until they fix that 80k USD and 200 mile range problem :) | 02:10 |
| fury | tesla model 3 supposedly $35-40k and about 200 miles i guess? | 02:10 |
| mranostay | yeah still about 25k more than i'm going to pay for a money pit :) | 02:11 |
| fury | i'm gonna wait 12 years until i get out of debt and save up enough money that i can buy a nice $30-40k used tesla model s...by that time they'll prolly be up to 400 miles or so, about like a gas tank | 02:11 |
| mranostay | pretty sure the recharge units a bit hard to find on the coast | 02:11 |
| fury | yeah, hard to find in louisville, too :P | 02:11 |
| fury | but they have some in indianapolis | 02:12 |
| fury | and that's the central hub of where my family sprayed out across the area... i'm in louisville, got some in illinois, some in indiana, some in michigan... | 02:12 |
| fury | my dad's high tailing it out of michigan and retiring down to florida pretty soon | 02:12 |
| fury | but my bros are still there | 02:13 |
| fury | once there's a nice electric charger corridor it'll be viable, and of course by then i'll be worth billions and i can just buy tesla outright | 02:13 |
| fury | and then put AGL in there | 02:14 |
| fury | gonna run out of letters of the alphabet before then tho | 02:14 |
| mranostay | fury: MI makes OH look awesome :P | 02:15 |
| * mranostay ducks | 02:15 | |
| fury | zealous zingel | 02:15 |
| fury | hehe | 02:15 |
| fury | is the snapshot version/date stored anywhere in the rootfs? | 02:17 |
| mranostay | not sure | 02:17 |
| fury | ah. kernel build date, thursday july 6th at 7:38:16 utc | 02:17 |
| fury | close enough | 02:17 |
| fury | probably today's snapshot then | 02:18 |
| fury | what a pain in the ass to try to figure out the right transformation matrix for this touchscreen (7" chalkboard electronics, 1280x800 multitouch) | 02:20 |
| fury | finally fixed it tho | 02:20 |
| fury | and fixing to submit a patch | 02:20 |
| fury | i have no fewer than 4 boards running AGL | 02:23 |
| fury | trying to check and see if it's that one minnowboard that's bad or if something is wonky in the software | 02:24 |
| fury | gonna leave it running overnight and hopefully find something in the morning | 02:24 |
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| jobol | hahaha | 06:06 |
| jobol | hi all | 06:06 |
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| mranostay | but no but really was going to sleep :) | 06:07 |
| jobol | mranostay, i think i found the issue for blank icons of services | 06:07 |
| jobol | mranostay, i built this morning the latest DAB and found the issue on my screen | 06:08 |
| jobol | but the config.xml is not the latest one! | 06:08 |
| jobol | I'll check mete-agl-demo whether it is using AUTOREV or not | 06:09 |
| mranostay | homescreen is working for me fine | 06:12 |
| mranostay | jobol: i was just wonder how can we have binding start up on boot?] | 06:12 |
| jobol | bingo! no AUTOREV | 06:12 |
| mranostay | aka urn:AGL:permission::system:run-by-default | 06:13 |
| mranostay | or that not for services? | 06:13 |
| jobol | mranostay, requiring the permission urn:AGL:permission::system:run-by-default should be enough | 06:13 |
| jobol | but as an english speaker you have a chance to propose a better name than run-by-default | 06:14 |
| jobol | autorun ? (its windows like, i like it too) | 06:14 |
| jobol | mranostay, socket (or dbus) activation is also possible | 06:18 |
| mranostay | jobol: yeah that name isn't ideal but have nothing better off the top of my head | 06:25 |
| mranostay | jobol: but i'm guessing run-by-default isn't implemeted yet? | 06:25 |
| jobol | mranostay, it should be already implemented | 06:26 |
| jobol | it's in /etc/afm/afm-unit.conf | 06:27 |
| jobol | and should create links in /usr/local/lib/systemd/user/default.target.wants | 06:27 |
| mranostay | hmm i'll check in the morning but pretty sure it isn't loading | 06:28 |
| jobol | but reboot is perhaps needed | 06:28 |
| jobol | not fully tested... | 06:28 |
| mranostay | this is mainly important for bluetooth autoconnect on "car start" | 06:29 |
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| dl9pf | khem: ping - got a question ... | 07:09 |
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| leon-anavi | hi | 07:45 |
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| * mranostay hands leon-anavi a nice carrot | 07:46 | |
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| [AD]Turbo | hi there | 07:48 |
| dl9pf | hi | 07:53 |
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| CTtpollard | mranostay: no carrots for anyone else? :/ | 08:39 |
| mranostay | CTtpollard: leon-anavi is a vegan so need to give priority | 08:40 |
| CTtpollard | sensible | 08:41 |
| leon-anavi | I'm not a vegan, not even a vegetarian. mranostay is just joking again with me :) | 08:41 |
| mranostay | you don't have to hide it! | 08:42 |
| mranostay | I saw leon-anavi eat a tofu 'turkey' in PDX at ELC :) | 08:42 |
| leon-anavi | :) | 08:53 |
| CTtpollard | :P | 08:57 |
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| toscalix | leon-anavi: you will have to eat beef at elce to kill the legend | 09:16 |
| dl9pf | kooltux_: ronan_: ping | 09:17 |
| CTtpollard | It's pretty hard not to eat meat in Prague | 09:19 |
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| leon-anavi | heh, I guess so :) | 09:19 |
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| ronan_ | Hi Jan-Simon | 09:24 |
| dl9pf | hi ronan_ | 09:33 |
| ronan_ | you try to ping me? | 09:33 |
| dl9pf | yep | 09:35 |
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| fury | can the apps be installed during the bitbake process instead of waiting until booting up on the target device? | 12:11 |
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| fury | also, what would happen if I enabled everything in the kernel config as a module? | 12:43 |
| fury | or at least everything that can be a module | 12:44 |
| smurray | it depends (tm) | 12:44 |
| smurray | you'll likely need some bare minimum of stuff built in to be able to boot and mount the rootfs | 12:44 |
| smurray | after that, you should be okay, except for bloat | 12:44 |
| smurray | but I'm not clear on why you'd do that for a car head-end ;) | 12:45 |
| smurray | fury: wrt app install, build time install was suggested and rejected, I forget the exact reason why | 12:46 |
| fury | it’d mostly be for development I guess I’m just really tired of recompiling the kernel to turn on yet another USB device. and if I find a touchscreen that connects over I2C, etc. | 12:47 |
| waltminer | mranostay and dl9pf I am having trouble following the merges to dab and master for SPEC-661. I am going to trust you got all of patches onto both branches | 12:47 |
| waltminer | Please confrm for me that SPEC-714 / gerrit 9979 is on dab I do not see it there | 12:49 |
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| dl9pf | it is there https://git.automotivelinux.org/apps/agl-service-bluetooth/tree/binding-bluetooth/bluetooth-api.c?h=dab#n543 | 12:56 |
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| fury | so gst-recorder can record the screen for putting up on YouTube or a projector or something like that? that is pretty cool | 13:25 |
| fury | I might use that in my presentation next week if I can figure it out | 13:25 |
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| dl9pf | true ... would be also nice to just expose the screen in the network for debugging ... mplayer/vlc and here we go | 13:30 |
| dl9pf | hmm, wasn't there wayland-rdp backend also ? | 13:31 |
| dl9pf | but the recorder is nice | 13:31 |
| smurray | there was a mention of the wayland-rdp backend, no idea if it's functional | 13:33 |
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| fury | so both of the minnowboards locked up overnight | 14:23 |
| fury | both of the raspberry pis are still kickin | 14:23 |
| fury | the one minnowboard i had an ssh connection to, nothing showed up in the journalctl, it just plain broke the pipe, display still shows what was on it at the time, and it was about 7.5 hours ago | 14:25 |
| fury | so it lasted like 5-5.5 hours before locking up. random | 14:26 |
| fury | but yesterday i had it lock up twice during some quick impromptu demos | 14:27 |
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| fury | anyone ever seen that on their minnowboard/any other intel platform? | 14:47 |
| khem | dl9pf: yes, | 14:48 |
| dl9pf | khem: hi ... sigh, I'm getting old ... now I just need to remember the question I had ... | 14:50 |
| dl9pf | khem | 14:50 |
| khem | heh, time is the best healer | 14:50 |
| khem | see now you dont have that problem | 14:50 |
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| dl9pf | true ... hmm ... I'll remember it ... | 14:55 |
| dl9pf | khem: ever played with locked-sigs.inc ? | 14:55 |
| khem | yes | 14:56 |
| dl9pf | so right now, if I lock things down, I get some errors like | 14:56 |
| dl9pf | ERROR: The agl-demo-platform-crosssdk:do_bundle_initramfs sig is computed to be 160d4e6bd7f43f7b3b27946cb7d7c6db, but the sig is locked to 7ee8fc2cbbd5f4d5a4cdc4723f0d468b in SIGGEN_LOCKEDSIGS_t-raspberrypi3 | 14:56 |
| dl9pf | does that ring a bell ? | 14:56 |
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| dl9pf | I assume it is a glitch in one of the initramfs recipes that leads to regen of xyz and thus above error. | 14:58 |
| khem | yeah usually time or date | 14:59 |
| dl9pf | ah .. and 2nd question: it seems like if I rebuild with lockedsigs (and the folder containing the cache is a SSTATE_MIRROR) it rebuilds most/all the native stuff again. So my tests are not too good in locking it 'really' | 14:59 |
| khem | or both get into a bitbake tracked variable | 14:59 |
| dl9pf | ah ... and I remember my initial question ... uninative ... it is a bummer there is universal and universal-4.8/universal-4.9 ... any way around that roadblocker ? | 14:59 |
| khem | generally if you inherit uninative it should choose the right one | 15:00 |
| khem | based on your host system | 15:01 |
| dl9pf | but what if I setup a sstate-mirror ... then I'm in trouble as there are 3 variants | 15:02 |
| khem | dont think so, | 15:03 |
| khem | the uninative tarballs are fetched from YP | 15:03 |
| khem | mirror | 15:03 |
| khem | so if you were to lock the native recipes, it should still work out independent of host distro | 15:04 |
| khem | since it will pull the right uninative | 15:04 |
| dl9pf | yes, but sstate has different folders based on the builder / host gcc ... https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10441 | 15:05 |
| dl9pf | so e.g. the builder would write-out sstate-dir/universal-4.8 , your host would search/recompile sstate-dir/universal-4.9 | 15:06 |
| khem | hmm | 15:06 |
| dl9pf | depending on the hosts gcc version ... | 15:06 |
| dl9pf | that renders the uni in uninative pointless | 15:06 |
| dl9pf | and its not clear this does not bubble-down into the hashes of the builds | 15:07 |
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| dl9pf | (yes, solution is: clang+musl :P - hmm, should probably discuss on #yocto) | 15:08 |
| mdp | fury: haven't seen that on my turbots but they have only run older AGL in Chinook timeframe | 15:12 |
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| khem | dl9pf: actually on the contrary it solves those issues | 15:21 |
| dl9pf | really ? let's say the builder has gcc4.8 and my workstation 4.9 ... the sstate-mirror will be filled with universal-4.8 and my workstation will look for nonexistant universal-4.9 and thus rebuild it. | 15:23 |
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| mranostay | waltminer: yes all patches should be in both branches | 15:46 |
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| mranostay | and SPEC-714 isn't important unless you have the mediaplayer changes merged as well | 15:52 |
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| dl9pf | khem: figured it out ... the eSDK bridges the universal-* folders together (maps them into one). | 18:00 |
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| khem | dl9pf: yes thats underpinning | 18:01 |
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| fury | is it just me or does the whole bluetooth connection crash for anyone else upon a phone call or the phone believes it hears "hey siri" | 20:06 |
| fury | https://pastebin.com/aDK0zqKG | 20:10 |
| mdp | my android device does not crash when it hears "hey siri" | 20:13 |
| mdp | at least prior to recent changes that were merged, I could play a2dp and take an incoming phone call..I haven't tested since against the recent appfw and bt/wifi binding changes myself. I think mranostay mentioned seeing ofonod crash himself..which is what I'm seeing above when HFPConnected seems to toggle from true -> false | 20:16 |
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| fury | yeah. i was playing over a2dp, then siri decided to butt in, so it tried to activate HFP BVRA & SCO audio | 20:17 |
| fury | then i guess when ofono crashed it disconnected the whole phone (and/or that bluetooth hardware error forced a reset?) | 20:18 |
| mdp | it's worrisome to see HFPConnected just toggle states a lot like that..dunno if that's some bt binding signal weirdness or the actual backend state | 20:18 |
| mdp | yeah, likely something like that | 20:18 |
| mdp | once you have ofono registered as the hfp agent to bluez perhaps the error path is not well tested | 20:19 |
| mdp | waltminer: fwiw, if we postpone those audiomanager fixes to eel then all the additional phone features will be present, but broken in dab. so dunno if that's what you intended by the jira update. | 20:21 |
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| waltminer | mdp I don’t understand. Which ticket? | 20:55 |
| waltminer | Today I was trying to make sure all of the tix were merged to both eel and dab | 20:56 |
| waltminer | mdp SPEC-660? | 21:09 |
| mdp | both SPEC-660 and SPEC-710..ugh, apologies, I misread your relabeling. sometimes I don't parse these robomails from jira in mutt very well | 21:18 |
| mdp | waltminer: ^^^ | 21:18 |
| waltminer | I almost always click on the Jira issue because the email summary is crap | 21:19 |
| mdp | unreadable..I should do the same. | 21:19 |
| mdp | I read it like you removed dab and marked it for eel..duh | 21:20 |
| mdp | _friday_ | 21:20 |
| mdp | waltminer: I was concerned because I've had people privately mailing me for weeks about these issues not being resolved ;) | 21:20 |
| waltminer | Did you see JSM comment on https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/10039/ ? | 21:21 |
| waltminer | Does it need to be cherry picked to dab? | 21:21 |
| mdp | yeah, I just replied, thanks | 21:22 |
| mranostay | mdp: the bluetooth binding has some scary stuff in it :) | 21:25 |
| mdp | indeed, at some point I want to go debug some of the oddities where settings doesn't update .. sometimes I just have to push connect on my phone since the UI doesn't show it (already paired)..hopefully not a binding issue..but the refresh seems slow. | 21:27 |
| mdp | mranostay: but your move of the binding to a service unblocks me to add some other telephony stuff that's needed to meet normal use cases. | 21:28 |
| mdp | mranostay: too many projects | 21:28 |
| mranostay | suspect the wifi binding isn't much better.. but i never use wifi | 21:31 |
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