IRC logs for #automotive for Tuesday, 2017-04-11

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leon-anavihi08:06
jobolhello08:09
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zeenixheeen: leon-anavi: i created rygel :)08:55
zeenixheeen: and yes, it's a media server, also renderer but usually it's just used as media server or library08:56
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leon-anaviI didn't know that :)09:12
leon-anaviI think I contributed Rygel recipe in AGL 2 years ago :)09:12
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gunnarxrygel is quite useful and tends to pop up - I think it was part of an earlier media implementation in GENIVI also09:23
gunnarxif it was not dleyna, I get them mixed up.  :)09:24
gunnarx(yes I know they don't do exactly the same thing...)09:24
gunnarxoh the wonders of DLNA/UPnP  I've wasted some parts of my life on it too.   Some things are really messed up09:26
gunnarx... a _little_ messed up.  let's be kind09:30
leon-anaviyes09:37
leon-anavias far as I remember the old media player was based on rygel and lightmediascanner09:38
radiofreewhy not tracker?09:39
zeenixleon-anavi: wow, small world :)09:39
zeenixleon-anavi: and out of pure coincidence, i just bumped into a colleague reading up on Rygel :)09:40
zeenixgunnarx: yeah, i worked on dlna/upnp for 4 years in total09:40
radiofreethe good old maemo days?09:41
zeenixgunnarx: hopefully i did succeed somewhat in making upnp/dlna simpler to deal with09:41
zeenixradiofree: exactly :)09:41
zeenixleon-anavi: do you know if we were the only meta-rust users?09:42
leon-anavidefinitely not the only meta-rust users :)09:42
leon-anaviI spoke with the maintainers of meta-rust during ELC US09:42
leon-anavifor sure it is still in AGL09:43
radiofreewe're all secretly hoping meta-rust goes unmaintained for a while, so we can say "the recipes are a little....rusty"09:44
* radiofree gets his coat09:44
leon-anavi:)09:48
leon-anaviI think there are not too many Rust fans in the automotive channel :)09:48
gunnarxI liked rust first time I looked at it09:52
gunnarxhaven't had time to play around with it but the concept seems to make sense.  safe but lighter than "managed" languages, so what's not to like?09:53
gunnarxjust our experience with yocto in GDP was a bit of a hassle, but it's true for almost any foreign language ecosystem.  Bring in node.js, Go, or anything I bet it would be similar.09:54
gunnarxmight have to come back some day, who knows09:55
* zeenix is pushing for Rust in his company and also helping with gnome adaptation09:57
zeenixgunnarx: iirc our issues were resolved with latest meta-rust update after release 1109:57
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heeenhi09:59
heeenhow can I get a jira account09:59
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waltminerAGL Dev call is delayed until CIAT call ends.13:04
waltminerI cannot start simultaneous call on gotomeeting13:05
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heeenwhat do I have to do to get a new app into the system13:31
heeensay I want the navigation shortcut to launch something else13:31
heeenI can see ther homescreen sends launchApp across dbus with the appid13:32
heeenwhat do I have to change to have a different binary launched13:32
ClaudiuLataretu1take a look into /usr/share/applications/ folder13:37
ClaudiuLataretu1you can find .app files there and modify Exec=13:37
heeencan I even run any binary application? it seems like the apps present in the system are not elf binaries13:38
heeensome zip file containing html or qml?13:38
ClaudiuLataretu1you can run anything that a shell can execute13:38
heeenthere is only rygel-preferences.desktop and rygel.desktop13:39
leon-anaviheeen, are you asking about adding a new app to the Homescreen on AGL?13:40
leon-anaviThis IRC channel is for both AGL and GDP so it is better to specify for which platform exactly are you asking :)13:41
heeenok, so this is AGL13:44
heeenI have a binary that I just want to run under weston13:44
heeenproblem is the surface does not get mapped because of the ivi layer stuff13:44
heeenseems like homescreen only allows apps that itself created launched to be shown because the layer id maps to the pid of the process13:45
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heeenjbocklage: hi13:48
jbocklagehi13:49
heeenI'm looking at homescreen/windowmanager13:49
heeentrying to figure out an easy way to show a binary app13:49
jbocklagewhat is a "binary app"?13:49
heeenseems like homescreen only creates layers for surfaces for apps it itself launched13:49
heeenjust some wayland client13:50
heeennot installed in the image13:50
jbocklageis it a wayland app? So is it shown on the screen when you use the destkop-shell?13:50
heeenI can't use desktop shell because it uses an extension of ivi shell13:50
jbocklageyes. The current homescreen app shows a static list off apps13:50
jbocklageand only these are shown on the display13:51
jbocklageHomeScreen uses the application framework to launch apps13:51
jbocklageso you need to install your app via the application framework13:51
heeencan I make it launch some other binary instead of, say, navigation13:51
jbocklageyes.13:51
jbocklageyou can install your app as "nav" (or "navi"?). Then launch the navigation app in the Homescreen. It will then launch and display your app13:52
leon-anaviI believe applicationmodel.cpp from homescreen repo provides some answers to the questions above.13:52
jbocklageyou have to edit your config.xml for this13:52
jbocklageleon-anavi: yes13:52
heeenit calls some dbus method but I don't know where that ends up13:52
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jbocklagein leon-anavi's case, you have to edit the source code and recompile13:53
leon-anaviit's not my case, I was just trying to help heeen :)13:53
heeenalternativly can I hack homescreen to just show my app as a popup13:53
jbocklageleon-anavi: :)13:54
jbocklageheeen: popup: no. But as mentioned, you can replace an existing app with yours as a quick hack13:54
jbocklageafm-util is your frind13:54
jbocklagefriend13:54
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heeenwhats a wgl file? appears to be a zip archive13:57
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jbocklageyes.13:57
jbocklagea w3c widget file. There is a tutorial somewhere... let me find it...13:58
jbocklagehttp://docs.automotivelinux.org/docs/apis_services/en/dev/reference/af-main/quick-tutorial.html14:00
jbocklagecheck the app framework chapter14:00
heeenthanks14:01
jbocklageyw14:01
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heeenhm those sample widget apps are missing the json files to build them15:29
heeenactually modules/* are empty15:29
heeenand I still don't see how to run anything that is not a webapp or qml file?15:30
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heeenconfig.xml from smarthome only references the main.qml, not the native part of that app15:30
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heeento answer my own questions16:03
heeenthe easiest way to launch an application is just to modify an existing installed applications conmfig.xml16:03
heeenlike /var/lib/afm/applications/mediaplayer/0.1/config.xml16:04
heeen<content src="bin/yourbinary" type="application/x-executable"/>16:04
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heeenif I change a smack file what do I have to do to have the change in effect17:19
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jobolheeen hi18:35
jobolyou asked " if I change a smack file what do I have to do to have the change in effect?"18:35
jobollet me know more cause as written I don't understand18:35
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mranostaydl9pf: ah so any idea when changes happened that broke the rpi3?19:21
mdpheeen: what I do is actually build the .wgt itself, scp, and afm-util install. there are many approaches.19:42
mdpwell, there's an afm-util kill in that cycle as well19:42
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