IRC logs for #automotive for Monday, 2017-03-20

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chbaehello08:02
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CTtpollardhi o/10:27
zeenixmorning10:54
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Nikhil_DHello guys, I am interested in the Homescreen development12:38
Nikhil_DI have got the QtCreator up and running on my desktop (Desktop kit works fine)12:38
Nikhil_DI am not able to add the ARM GCC kit with target filesystem12:39
Nikhil_DAny help here is appreciated12:39
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chbaeHi zeenix14:29
chbaezeenix: I would like to talk about my PR.14:29
zeenixhi chbae14:30
zeenixsure thing14:30
chbaeI already added my comments in my PR.14:31
chbae1. What is meaning of 3 separated changes?14:31
zeenixchbae: 3 separate patches14:31
zeenixit was about a specific patch14:31
chbaeabout what patch?14:32
zeenixstupid github doesn't let me add comments on specific patches :(14:32
chbaeL)14:32
chbae:)14:32
zeenixi replied on the PR for the record14:35
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gunnarx I am looking at it too.   These are a lot of changes and in multiple layers, so it seems to make sense to take some time to review them all...14:43
chbaegunnarx: ok. I’ll wait for your review. Thanks.14:44
gunnarxzeenix, chbae.  With respect to merge order...14:49
gunnarxon first look I think this is so huge that I'd rather recommend we use a separate branch first and switch master over when confident.14:50
CTtpollardEek14:50
gunnarxmeaning:  Let's have CI build another branch instead of relying on our PR checks and the mess of inter-related PRs14:50
gunnarxso you agree with me CTtpollard :)14:50
CTtpollardAh, not opening that can of worms again14:51
CTtpollardin general I prefer to not rolling release though14:51
gunnarxnot sure if I understand the last comment .  we do fixed releases _and_ relatively fast moving development on master.  we need both options, one way or another, right?14:53
CTtpollardmerging outside of master to check it's stable is kinda moving away from rolling release14:53
gunnarxdid you see the PR?14:54
CTtpollardYes, I understand it's not so black&white :)14:54
gunnarxso yeah, you are right in theory :)14:54
gunnarxactually, no difference for consumers of the release.  I'm talking about a structured approach for the developers now14:54
gunnarxcan of worms = submodule thing?14:55
CTtpollardand yocto layering, mgd-gdp split repos & CI reliability on top I understand the trickiness14:55
gunnarxthing is, we usually manage it fine with the current PR checks but IMHO not for something this big.14:55
gunnarxyes, you are right, it's about some complexities14:55
CTtpollardgunnarx: na, more the can of worms of switching to rolling release14:56
gunnarxok, there's no major change as far as I can see.  a lot of theorizing about it before but the way I see it we have a development branch named master, and we have fixed releases.  there's not much more to it that I can see14:57
gunnarxdevs want the latest, others want a fixed point.  we provide both.14:58
gunnarxCTtpollard, when we have inter-dependent PRs the current CI setup needs to be interpreted correctly, so it's not ideal.  But it's functioning reliably on what it does now, in my opinion.14:58
gunnarxanyhow, back to the task at hand14:58
CTtpollardYeh, was necessarily placing reliability directly onto the CI itself14:59
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CTtpollardfor instance, I've seen at least 4 yocto based projects CI break this weekend because an upstream rebased a release branch15:00
CTtpollardmany moving pieces15:00
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gunnarxyes15:00
chbaezeenix: Please give your comment and then I’ll change my commit.15:07
Nikhil_DHello anyone here?15:13
chbaehello15:18
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zeenixoh, i went out for a fika and now i've a complicated backlog :)15:22
Nikhil_Dchbae: I am trying to get the HomeScreen app running on QtCreator15:23
Nikhil_DThis is first time I am using qt and qtcreator15:23
Nikhil_DNot able to set up the kit15:24
gunnarxjust on desktop, or deploy to hardware?15:36
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gunnarxNikhil_D, don't know if it helps you but QtCreator configuration is provided in GENIVI SDE http://tinyurl.com/sderepo15:47
gunnarxmaybe you can reuse files in .config/targets - they should go into .config/QtProject/qtcreator or something like that15:48
gunnarxif it helps15:48
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Nikhil_Dits empty directory with just .gitkeep15:57
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gunnarxNikhil_D,  look into .config/targets - it should not be empty16:36
gunnarxyeah, qtcreator is empty but it gets filled as part of the build process...16:36
gunnarxthe files from targets are copied into qtcreator.16:37
gunnarxuhh there's a lot of things that can improve in the SDE build process.  it's a mix of CI and scripts now, but there's already a plan for a generation 2 that improves this16:38
gunnarx....and to the benefit of other projects, and people, gen 2 should  make the setup a lot more hackable and forkable, which I have to admit it is not easily now16:40
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wesamhey, is the CES2017 demo hmi open source?17:29
wesamnever mind i found the source code17:34
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