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| leon-anavi | hi | 09:43 |
| gunnarx | hi leon | 09:45 |
| jbocklage123 | hi all | 09:52 |
| gunnarx | hello, jbocklage123 | 09:52 |
| leon-anavi | hi gunnarx | 09:55 |
| leon-anavi | hi jbocklage123 :) | 09:55 |
| gunnarx | so, now that we have the formalities out of the way... | 09:55 |
| gunnarx | talk about something? :) | 09:55 |
| gunnarx | pure time wasting. I'm actually in the middle of 10 different other things flipping crazy between windows and tabs | 09:56 |
| leon-anavi | hehe :) | 09:57 |
| gunnarx | hate it when my core i7 gets completely sluggish because of too many Firefox tabs... how do you avoid always opening a new tab all the time. | 09:57 |
| leon-anavi | jbocklage123, do you need more info about the issue with HomeScreen app on Weston 1.11? | 09:58 |
| jbocklage123 | I have to check :) | 09:59 |
| gunnarx | jbocklage123, weren't you the one who once added an AGL build to go.genivi.org? | 10:01 |
| leon-anavi | jbocklage123, ok, please keep me updated. The failure of the app is kind of blocking the Wayland/Weston 1.11 because with the app we just have a blank screen (which is not very user friendly :) ) | 10:01 |
| jbocklage123 | gunnarx: indeed | 10:02 |
| gunnarx | just saying b/c I haven't messed with it but I noticed the build suddenly went from fail to success now for unknown reason :) | 10:02 |
| jbocklage123 | leon-anavi: try "layeraddsurface 10 10" | 10:02 |
| gunnarx | I remember seeing the logs saying "this method is deprecated" and so on, I guess it's on an old build instruction | 10:02 |
| gunnarx | which suddenly started working again | 10:02 |
| gunnarx | we restarted/upgraded recently, so the user list shows you haven't been there since then but old logins should work. I'm not saying you need to do anything, just saying if you ever wanted to log in | 10:06 |
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| gunnarx | (other than guest account that also works for everyone) | 10:06 |
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| gunnarx | zeenix, dude, have you muted me? will you answer on a mention in the channel instead!? :-) | 10:11 |
| gunnarx | oh, that worked, haha | 10:12 |
| zeenix | no, i'm just waking up | 10:12 |
| leon-anavi | jbocklage123, where should I add this? | 10:53 |
| jbocklage123 | leon-anavi: just run it in the terminal | 10:53 |
| leon-anavi | layeraddsurface: command not found | 10:54 |
| jbocklage123 | use layer<tab><tab><tab><tab># | 10:54 |
| jbocklage123 | :) | 10:54 |
| leon-anavi | layer-add-surfaces :) | 10:54 |
| jbocklage123 | ok :) | 10:54 |
| leon-anavi | doesn't seem to work | 10:56 |
| leon-anavi | if I launch HomeScreen I get a segmentation fault | 10:56 |
| jbocklage123 | oh! f*ck... | 10:56 |
| * jbocklage123 has to go for lunch... colleagues are already getting nerveausue... | 10:57 | |
| leon-anavi | ok, I have to go to lunch and to do some other tasks. It is a pretty busy week. I hope I will wrap up my work on the other tasks and switch back to Wayland/Weston | 10:57 |
| leon-anavi | jbocklage123, enjoy your lunch :) We will figure out HomeScreen after that :) | 10:57 |
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| zeenix | wow, I can actually push (even forced) to PRs | 11:33 |
| gunnarx | nice to be king isn't it zeenix ? | 11:33 |
| CTtpollard | that's one of the nice things about github, as well as retaining the revisions | 11:34 |
| zeenix | well, this will just help me fix nitpicks myself so i don't annoy people all the time :) | 11:34 |
| gunnarx | the world cheers!! | 11:35 |
| zeenix | CTtpollard: same thing with bugzilla | 11:35 |
| zeenix | gunnarx: it shouldn't cheer too much. I still expect people to learn over time and not keep on making the same silly mistakes | 11:35 |
| zeenix | they're usually not silly though so i take that word back :) | 11:36 |
| gunnarx | of course, but now you can say "do as I do, not as I say", which should help move things along sometimes | 11:36 |
| zeenix | exactly | 11:36 |
| zeenix | setting examples :) | 11:36 |
| gunnarx | people tend to want to align to the process over time, not an issue | 11:37 |
| zeenix | slawr is on the west coast? | 11:37 |
| gunnarx | no, UK | 11:37 |
| gunnarx | might be on the west coast of something | 11:37 |
| gunnarx | I don't take him for a Walesian or Irish though :) | 11:38 |
| gunnarx | Walesian!? No, Welsh isn't it | 11:38 |
| gunnarx | let's not give out locations here, my address is a well guarded secret :) | 11:40 |
| CTtpollard | Yes Welsh :P | 11:40 |
| gunnarx | ya, was trying to make up something funny. but angry Walesians are not a funny bunch | 11:42 |
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| zeenix | i completely forgot about a very important thing wrt GSoC | 13:21 |
| zeenix | we need some small issues for students to work on, before GSoC | 13:21 |
| zeenix | that's typically a good way to evaluate students | 13:21 |
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| leon-anavi | jbocklage, could the problem with the HomeScreen be related to wl-shell? | 13:46 |
| leon-anavi | jbocklage, ronan stopped a patch that we need to add to the new version of wayland-ivi-extension | 13:50 |
| gunnarx | zeenix, ok: given a PDF of my choosing, create another PDF with a SHA-1 collision | 13:51 |
| jbocklage | the homescreen does not explicitly use wl_shell. It uses qtwayland as backend. | 13:52 |
| gunnarx | that'll be our entry barrier | 13:52 |
| leon-anavi | jbocklage, ok, ronan in this case do we really need 0001-wayland-ivi-extension-patch-for-wl-shell-emulator.patch ? | 13:54 |
| ronan | I don't know | 13:54 |
| ronan | but lot of weston.ini use it | 13:56 |
| ronan | grep -rn wl-shell-emulator.so meta-agl* | 13:56 |
| leon-anavi | as part of the update to 1.11 weston.ini must be updated. I have already done this for rpi. | 13:56 |
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| jbocklage | leon-anavi: is the windowmanager up and running? | 14:13 |
| ronan_ | I'm currently start to rebuild webkit so ... back in 1 hour for the result | 14:15 |
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| jbocklage | leon-anavi: OK. I am using AGL master and exchanged meta-agl with your github branch. Now building... | 14:31 |
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| jbocklage | leon-anavi: I guess our setups differ... I get this error: http://pastebin.com/7fdK1Y2a | 15:04 |
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| CTtpollard | welcome back to the land of the somewhat-living wesam | 15:09 |
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| wesam | somewhat-living indeed | 15:11 |
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| leon-anavi | jbocklage, which revision of meta-raspberrypi are you using? | 15:19 |
| leon-anavi | I submitted an update of AGL repo that uses a known to work version of meta-raspberrypi to avoid kernel issues with the latest version https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/8611 | 15:27 |
| ronan_ | On my renesas gen3 m3 board: | 15:31 |
| ronan_ | HomeScreen.service loaded failed failed AGL reference HomeScreen | 15:31 |
| ronan_ | rygel.service loaded failed failed Rygel | 15:31 |
| ronan_ | WindowManager.service loaded failed failed AGL Window Manager | 15:31 |
| ronan_ | weston is up | 15:31 |
| leon-anavi | ronan_, ok, good - same result as on rpi3 :) | 15:33 |
| leon-anavi | have you tried running weston with desktop-shell? It works well on rpi3. I guess it will work on gen3 m3 board too. | 15:34 |
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| jbocklage | leon-anavi: now 69c56754bdd6417de5b69d3c8c3684ecff8e4651 :)) | 15:45 |
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| gunnarx | leon-anavi, thanks for putting your stuff on GitHub and annotating it carefully. It means cross-references turn up in GitHub. | 15:50 |
| gunnarx | https://github.com/leon-anavi/meta-agl/commit/a8db0f2119265768cbad140cd165ef61164225c4 | 15:50 |
| leon-anavi | hehe, nice, I didn't know that github recognizes them that well :) | 15:52 |
| leon-anavi | jbocklage, I submitted a patch at Gerrit to use this version of meta-raspberrypi. | 15:53 |
| jbocklage | leon-anavi: ah, I see... That is exactly what I was doing :) | 15:54 |
| leon-anavi | :) | 15:54 |
| leon-anavi | please give +1 if you like the change ;) | 15:54 |
| jbocklage | http://pastebin.com/sbLndrUJ | 15:55 |
| leon-anavi | jbocklage, hm... are you using my wip on the fork of meta-agl in GitHub and have you set version of Wayland/Weston/wayland-ivi-extension in conf/local.conf? | 15:57 |
| jbocklage | meta-agl is: e607cca298f3b858fef8a454b619d0fbf0f44f7c and I set preferred version to 1.11 and 1.10 as in SPEC-441 | 15:58 |
| jbocklage | /s/441/411/ | 15:58 |
| leon-anavi | ok, same on my side. Let me try to reproduce the issue locally. | 15:59 |
| jbocklage | k | 16:00 |
| leon-anavi | ok, I forgot to commit a patch for meta-agl-demo :) | 16:02 |
| leon-anavi | give me 5min | 16:02 |
| CTtpollard | zeenix: I see in the weekly report that you need to contact Codethink about any automated testing we did with GDP? | 16:02 |
| leon-anavi | jbocklage, could you please set meta-agl-demo to this one: https://github.com/leon-anavi/meta-agl-demo ? | 16:06 |
| ronan_ | hi leon | 16:07 |
| leon-anavi | I have renamed the bbappend file in the master branch in a way to skip the patches for 1.9 while building other versions. | 16:07 |
| ronan_ | I fix up meta-agl-demo in my sandbox | 16:07 |
| ronan_ | you can cherry-pick some commit if you want | 16:08 |
| leon-anavi | ok but I have already done that in my fork in GitHub. | 16:09 |
| leon-anavi | although my fix is radical - just skip patches for the moment :) | 16:10 |
| ronan_ | yes I see that, I don't know if wl-shell-emulator is relevant for wayland/weston 1.11.0 but I fix it in my branch | 16:13 |
| ronan_ | leon: Why do you use github instead of a sandbox in gerrit? | 16:15 |
| gunnarx | ronan_, I just told you why ;) | 16:15 |
| leon-anavi | :) | 16:16 |
| leon-anavi | GitHub seems more convenient for me than sandbox. | 16:16 |
| ronan_ | ok | 16:16 |
| leon-anavi | is it a problem? | 16:17 |
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| ronan_ | no but sandbox make the job, and if every body do that ... what a mess :) | 16:19 |
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| zeenix | CTtpollard: hi, yes | 16:27 |
| zeenix | CTtpollard: based on our limited research, we decided to go with python-behave + dogtail | 16:28 |
| zeenix | CTtpollard: but would be interesting to know if you came up with something else? | 16:28 |
| khem | mranostay: is CONFIG_I2C_BCM2835 enabled as well | 16:29 |
| CTtpollard | zeenix: in terms of GUI testing, the most automation we did was using python-uinput | 16:30 |
| RzR | khem, you want i2c into gdp on pi ? | 16:30 |
| CTtpollard | rajm did quite a bit of working around automated testing involved the qemu image though, checking service etc | 16:30 |
| RzR | khem, I have a patch doing this somewhere | 16:30 |
| khem | mranostay: and you need disable_touchscreen=1 ignore_lcd=2 mask_gpu_interrupt1=0x1000 in config.txt as per eric | 16:31 |
| mranostay | khem: yeah that didn't work | 16:31 |
| khem | mranostay: are you on 4.9 ? | 16:32 |
| mranostay | yes | 16:32 |
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| khem | then it may be needing some debugging, I dont have LCD myself here | 16:33 |
| mranostay | and yes CONFIG_I2C_BCM2835 is enabled | 16:33 |
| khem | you seem to have done it right | 16:33 |
| RzR | cat recipes-kernel/linux/linux-raspberrypi_4.4.bbappend | 16:34 |
| RzR | KERNEL_MODULE_AUTOLOAD += "i2c-dev" | 16:34 |
| RzR | ENABLE_I2C = "1" | 16:34 |
| RzR | I can commit this if anyone tell me where ;) | 16:35 |
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| jeremiah | ohai! | 16:35 |
| RzR | I needed this on genivi or agl | 16:35 |
| jeremiah | Someone is asking me if one needs "bitbake meta-ide-support" for running on QEMU | 16:36 |
| jeremiah | To me this makes no sense | 16:36 |
| rajm | yes there's a GENIVI repos with the work that I did on testing , trying to remember... | 16:36 |
| gunnarx | and it also makes no sense they are reaching out to lots of individuals instead of asking on the mailing list :) | 16:36 |
| jeremiah | Isn't meta-ide-support a layer for bringing in IDE stuff? | 16:36 |
| jeremiah | gunnarx: Exactly. That is what I'm gonna tell them | 16:36 |
| khem | RzR: seems ENABLE_I2C is needed in local.conf or machine.conf | 16:36 |
| gunnarx | I sent them to meta-ivi list, fyi :) | 16:36 |
| jeremiah | Ah | 16:36 |
| RzR | khem, or patch kernel recipe | 16:37 |
| rajm | zeenix it's at https://github.com/GENIVI/gdp-test-suite | 16:37 |
| CTtpollard | meta-ide is part of recipes-core, it's not needed to 'run' on qemu | 16:37 |
| jeremiah | I wish Freescale would help out since they have instructions on building GENIVI and Wayland but they don't seem to want to put it on our wiki or support their instructions | 16:37 |
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| zeenix | CTtpollard: rajm: Thanks | 16:38 |
| jeremiah | CTtpollard: Ah. | 16:38 |
| jeremiah | Thanks | 16:38 |
| gunnarx | jeremiah, NXP now | 16:38 |
| gunnarx | but yeah | 16:38 |
| jeremiah | Yeah, NXP | 16:38 |
| jeremiah | Oh well, I'll let 'em know that there are more folks who can help them on the list and in here, our friendly IRC chatroom. :-) | 16:39 |
| CTtpollard | you could add the contents of meta-ide to any yocto image though | 16:40 |
| jeremiah | CTtpollard: But its not a requirement to have meta-ide to build GENIVI and run the resulting image on qemu is it? | 16:40 |
| CTtpollard | Nope | 16:40 |
| CTtpollard | We do bring it in the though | 16:40 |
| jeremiah | I'm not sure why they start off asking about iMX and then jump to qemu, perhaps they want to make sure they can build Miranda and then fiddle with the BSP | 16:41 |
| jeremiah | CTtpollard: Ah, okay. Thanks | 16:41 |
| CTtpollard | I've never really touched the ide layer of meta, but I guess it works in much the same way as the SDK extension | 16:41 |
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| jeremiah | "This Yocto layer provides support for building GENIVI on NXP i.MX6 with GPU hardware. | 16:46 |
| jeremiah | It has been built only with the wayland backend. This is not tested and not supported." | 16:46 |
| CTtpollard | which layer is this? | 16:48 |
| jeremiah | I'm not sure, it is from a README that NXP provides for their iMX6 GENIVI demo. | 16:48 |
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| CTtpollard | could you point me to it please? :) | 16:48 |
| jeremiah | Sure. I'll send it to you directly. | 16:49 |
| jeremiah | et viola | 16:50 |
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| * CTtpollard grumbles about the use of repo | 16:50 | |
| jeremiah | Oh. You're in the submodule camp. | 16:51 |
| jeremiah | I like repo. | 16:51 |
| CTtpollard | I'm not against repo | 16:52 |
| CTtpollard | but I'm against using it when the base GDP.git doesnt :) | 16:52 |
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| jeremiah | Yeah, that makes little sense | 16:52 |
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| jeremiah | @zeenix et al., How do we want to handle members of the GDP team at GitHub? | 16:55 |
| jeremiah | Do we want folks to send pull requests or do we want them to be 'members' of the GDP team? | 16:55 |
| CTtpollard | I understand why they've done it though | 16:56 |
| jeremiah | Currently the GDP maintainers team is here: https://github.com/orgs/GENIVI/teams/gdp-maintainers | 16:56 |
| jeremiah | And I assume that there is consensus among the members on how to handle changes | 16:56 |
| CTtpollard | Are Genivi still looking at using repo/submodules/etc for building the baseline? They've used repo to build the baseline essentially & stuck their bsp layer in it | 16:56 |
| jeremiah | Matthias Bloch from PSA wants to have write access to meta-genivi-dev and would have to be a member of the GDP maintainers team, so I want to know what our policy is on writing to the repo | 16:57 |
| jeremiah | Ideally he'd just follow the contribution guidelines we have setup and which I'll point him to, but its the GDP maintainers who have final say on who's in the team in my view so I'm asking y'all | 16:58 |
| zeenix | jeremiah: he's not a GDP maintainer, is he? | 16:58 |
| jeremiah | zeenix: Nope | 16:58 |
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| jeremiah | So tell him to send PRs? | 16:58 |
| zeenix | jeremiah: so he needs to do PRs :) | 16:58 |
| jeremiah | Yep. Thanks. | 16:59 |
| zeenix | np | 16:59 |
| jeremiah | CTtpollard: I think we use submodules quite extensively and haven't looked at repo in a while. Don't know how much interest there is in switching at this point. | 17:00 |
| CTtpollard | I guess PSA want to commit directly to 'wip/cool-new-fsa', branching like that kinda defeats the point of github though :) | 17:00 |
| jeremiah | Yeah | 17:01 |
| CTtpollard | or, defeats the point in the fork-PR model | 17:01 |
| jeremiah | Which is a pretty good model if you want to have a psuedo "centralized" repo | 17:01 |
| jeremiah | Gives you a lot more control | 17:01 |
| CTtpollard | jeremiah: yeh switching would be a hassle, but providing a way to just build the baseline for the boards (you can do this with the gdp.git, you just bitbake the basline instead) is useful | 17:01 |
| CTtpollard | or at least, have a way that users know that | 17:02 |
| * jeremiah nods | 17:02 | |
| CTtpollard | because there's no way to upstream that NXP support without a common base | 17:03 |
| * zeenix calls it a day and goes to eat some Semla | 17:03 | |
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| jeremiah | sheesh. You can't eat Semla *every* day zeenix | 17:05 |
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| dl9pf | jbocklage: ping | 17:19 |
| jeremiah | gunnarx: CommonAPI code is getting thrown over the wall: https://github.com/GENIVI/capicxx-dbus-tools/commit/613e5ee03c9a9af1cadd2beeca44f8ac8b6a9d0d | 17:21 |
| gunnarx | that sounds a bit negative :) | 17:22 |
| jeremiah | I understand that it can be difficult for some companies to work in the open but at least replying to mailing list and PRs is important | 17:22 |
| gunnarx | sure | 17:22 |
| jeremiah | I think it is negative from a community perspective. | 17:22 |
| jeremiah | We're getting some good contribution and I think at least reviewing the contribution would be good | 17:23 |
| gunnarx | oh sure | 17:23 |
| jeremiah | I apologize for sounding frustrated | 17:24 |
| gunnarx | Quite many companies need to go through a review process before publishing, unfortunately | 17:24 |
| jeremiah | Yes, for sure. | 17:24 |
| jeremiah | That is likely wise. | 17:24 |
| gunnarx | I'll bring it up with them, since it's an important code base | 17:24 |
| gunnarx | why do I get a mention on this, totally innocent this time :-) | 17:25 |
| jeremiah | But there are some outstanding issues from production projects as well as some contributors who know the code base well, are GENIVI members, and have made considerable contributions previously. | 17:25 |
| jeremiah | I think that should be low hanging fruit to review and at least close the PRs and answer the emails if only to say "Thanks, but no thanks." | 17:25 |
| jeremiah | gunnarx: Sorry, its not really your problem. Its really my problem. I'll try and formulate a properly worded email. | 17:26 |
| gunnarx | I hear you jeremiah, again I'm not that maintainer. I can be a sympathetic ear though :) | 17:26 |
| jeremiah | Yes, thanks. I'll contact the maintainer to see how we can better support their reivew of the lists and PRs | 17:27 |
| gunnarx | CTtpollard, "I'm not against repo... but I'm against using it" | 17:28 |
| gunnarx | Right there with you friend! | 17:29 |
| gunnarx | Does anyone want a link to my unrepo project, for the hundredth time? :) | 17:29 |
| CTtpollard | I'm currently juggling a rather painful svn project, I'd take a repo-fied git repo over it any day | 17:30 |
| gunnarx | oh but yeah that's a whole 'nother level | 17:30 |
| gunnarx | On that topic kind of. I am thinking of supporting zeenix on merging genivi-dev-platform and meta-genivi-dev since they are in effect the same project and just cause extra work. | 17:31 |
| jeremiah | +1 | 17:31 |
| gunnarx | I've been sort of against the idea before, but I can see how it adds overhead currently, especially in efficient CI builds of all the PRs and combinations of PRs and such | 17:31 |
| CTtpollard | :) | 17:32 |
| gunnarx | On that topic again, why the HELL is there no shared layer between AGL and GDP, | 17:32 |
| gunnarx | e.g. on stuff like weston.service | 17:32 |
| gunnarx | oh right, I know the answer, it's because I've tried to propose it before... | 17:33 |
| CTtpollard | at least there should be a common renesas bsp sometime 'soon' | 17:33 |
| gunnarx | I'm right here whenever you want to get started | 17:33 |
| gunnarx | CTtpollard, yeah that should certainly be doable, but that's true of all the BSPs | 17:34 |
| gunnarx | again, I believe GENIVI have proposed it... | 17:34 |
| gunnarx | also via Agustin Codethink GDP maintainer team in the past... | 17:35 |
| RzR | gunnarx, I think otherwise , layers are layers and keeping minimal main project is making sense | 17:36 |
| jbocklage | leon-anavi: dl9pf: sorry... I changed the meta-agl-demo repo. I still get an error... I will investigate tomorrow. http://pastebin.com/1K0xhCC4 | 17:36 |
| gunnarx | RzR, it's no longer making sense though | 17:37 |
| RzR | gunnarx, but this is your home :) | 17:37 |
| gunnarx | there is only one project using meta-genivi-dev in the universe... and as I said I want shared layers that are shared | 17:37 |
| leon-anavi | jbocklage, did you change meta-raspberrypi? | 17:37 |
| gunnarx | meta-genivi-dev is not for shared stuff, it's for whatever falls outside of shared | 17:37 |
| dl9pf | jbocklage: wait | 17:37 |
| RzR | gunnarx, it's not a big deal, but I still think a layer should remain a layer only, unless it's for convenient purposes like quick and dirty hacking | 17:39 |
| RzR | note I have nothing against the other strategy | 17:40 |
| gunnarx | RzR, Sure. Be clear that would never merge any other layer for the reason given above, reuse. | 17:40 |
| RzR | but if that layer contains non genivi specific stuff | 17:41 |
| gunnarx | it shouldn't | 17:41 |
| gunnarx | never | 17:41 |
| RzR | it would make sense to tear it out and share it with agl | 17:41 |
| RzR | ok | 17:41 |
| gunnarx | don't try to twist my position on this, read a few lines up. I'm wondering why the HELL things that should be shared are not shared in a common layer | 17:42 |
| RzR | yea that | 17:42 |
| gunnarx | This is only about not having to do this dance around confirming all the builds before merging. We want to be strict on that - we're already building I don't know how many pipeline variants with every proposed PR. The split tends to double that sometimes. | 17:42 |
| RzR | I agrea too | 17:42 |
| gunnarx | I've done my part on this in the past I feel, with comprehensive proposals. ignored | 17:43 |
| RzR | so where are common hacks going today if not in meta-ivi ? | 17:44 |
| gunnarx | tbh, the way things are there will be stuff ending up there that "should" be shared but if we have no clear place to put it... | 17:44 |
| gunnarx | RzR, copied between projects mostly I imagine | 17:44 |
| RzR | so create a meta-non-genivi-non-agl layer and put that stuff in :) | 17:44 |
| gunnarx | as I have proposed, although with a much better name and more comprehensive thinking around it | 17:44 |
| gunnarx | proposed it a long time ago | 17:45 |
| gunnarx | *while* AGL was discussing their "layer strategy", so there was nothing, so it's not like I was asking anyone to rip up what they have already done. | 17:45 |
| RzR | nothing prevent anything to add this to gdp 1st ? if there is a need for it | 17:45 |
| RzR | and share it to yocto community | 17:46 |
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| RzR | "as a staging" area | 17:46 |
| gunnarx | you're right. everyone's busy with what they have to do, GDP devs also | 17:46 |
| RzR | maybe I can try this I have a patch to share in both project | 17:47 |
| dl9pf | the shared layer exists - there is meta-agl/meta-ivi-common | 17:47 |
| gunnarx | oh yeah and there's one in genivi/meta-ivi-common, get real | 17:47 |
| RzR | dl9pf, thx for the reminder | 17:47 |
| gunnarx | that's the attitude that didn't work | 17:48 |
| gunnarx | I coined that name, if you remember | 17:48 |
| RzR | so problem was solved earlier or did I miss something ? | 17:48 |
| gunnarx | ? | 17:49 |
| gunnarx | does it sound like something is solved? :) | 17:49 |
| RzR | what is the problem with meta-ivi-common ? | 17:49 |
| RzR | all common patches should go there | 17:49 |
| RzR | that's all | 17:49 |
| RzR | or I missed something | 17:50 |
| RzR | deduplication is needed for UCB | 17:50 |
| gunnarx | you're right. you should initiate putting meta-ivi-common under the yocto project, RzR | 17:52 |
| RzR | well the question is about maintenance ? | 17:53 |
| RzR | I don't have the bandwidth for that today | 17:54 |
| RzR | but that's something a 3rd party could take care of to be neutral, or co maintenance with 2 pple for mentionned projects | 17:54 |
| jeremiah | C | 17:55 |
| RzR | if this has any value of course | 17:55 |
| gunnarx | I understand. My job is not exactly layer maintenance either, but it's more that I won't put effort into it if it's ignored | 17:56 |
| RzR | well I don't to go too much into governance or politics | 17:56 |
| gunnarx | sure, no one asking for that | 17:57 |
| RzR | but there is not meta-ivi-common in gdp today | 17:57 |
| gunnarx | ? | 17:57 |
| RzR | I think it would make sense to add it even if it is not in yocto | 17:57 |
| RzR | find ../genivi-dev-platform -iname 'meta-ivi-common' | 17:57 |
| gunnarx | exactly | 17:58 |
| RzR | so you where right | 17:58 |
| RzR | there is no shared place in gdp | 17:59 |
| gunnarx | you're not making sense | 17:59 |
| gunnarx | shared place in GDP? | 17:59 |
| RzR | but it could be added easily | 17:59 |
| RzR | if gdp take meta-ivi-common then non genivi specific patches can land there | 18:00 |
| gunnarx | "take"? | 18:00 |
| RzR | take or add layer | 18:00 |
| gunnarx | why would we try to make a private layer in a specific project and say, "hey everyone here is your common layer" | 18:00 |
| RzR | so the question is about hosting ? | 18:00 |
| gunnarx | yes we could separate out what we think is reusable | 18:00 |
| gunnarx | that makes perfect sense | 18:01 |
| RzR | <gunnarx> why would we try to make a private layer in a specific project | 18:01 |
| RzR | do we ? | 18:01 |
| gunnarx | sorry I don't understand | 18:02 |
| RzR | I am just suggesting to have meta-ivi-common synched between agl and genivi | 18:02 |
| gunnarx | yes | 18:02 |
| gunnarx | I don't know if I want to spend more time on this, as I've said I already spent significant time on a proposal in the past. | 18:02 |
| gunnarx | there has to be interest from several parties to do something | 18:02 |
| gunnarx | that's all I'm gonna say | 18:03 |
| RzR | note that meta-ivi-common is in AGL not in GDP | 18:04 |
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| leon-anavi | I have to go | 18:16 |
| leon-anavi | Tomorrow is holiday in .bg so most of the time I won't be online but I will try to show during the late afternoon. | 18:16 |
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