IRC logs for #automotive for Monday, 2017-01-16

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jakekhi, testing CES2017 on qemu (Virtualbox). I can: homescreen visible, ssh terminal connection ok. demo apps installed. afm-util list ok. afm-util run hvac@0.1 1 root@qemux86-64:/var/lib/afm/applications/hvac/0.1/bin# afm-util ps [ ] anyone tried before ? any tips, thanks!10:16
jbocklagey u no start HVAC via HomeScreen?10:19
CTtpollardhave you seen this leon-anavi? http://crna.cc/10:38
leon-anavino but it sounds super cool :)10:50
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leon-anavihave you tried out the minimal blobless rpi image?10:53
CTtpollardleon-anavi: I've built the minimal image from yocto, but not for a while11:06
leon-anaviI bookmarked it and I will give a try as soon as I have spare time :)11:07
leon-anavisounds like a very interesting experiment. Thanks for sharing the link.11:07
CTtpollardI got it from https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5o80co/blobless_linux_on_raspberry_pi_rpiopenfirmware/11:08
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jakeksorry previous, I can see the splash screen "AUTOMOTIVE GRADE LINUX" but then nothing happens11:24
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CTtpollardhttps://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/compute-module-3/11:58
jakekhi, testing the CES2017demo release on qemu (Virtualbox win7). I can see the splash screen "AUTOMOTIVE GRADE LINUX" but then nothing happens. any tips mates, cheers12:27
jbocklagecan anyone PM me the AMM "invitation code"?12:31
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zeenixrunning youtube videos in chromium on gdp on minnowboard like a boss here \o/12:55
zeenixtoo bad there is no audio output :(12:56
CTtpollard\o/13:19
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CTtpollardzeenix: how much mem does chromium take on the minnow when running?14:04
CTtpollard& cpu14:04
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radiofreezeenix: probably need the correct gst plugins?14:13
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* radiofree had a list of the needed ones somewhere14:14
radiofreefor webkit2 at least...14:14
CTtpollardI'd check alsa / pulseaudo user service is working correctly first14:20
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zeenixCTtpollard: i'll need to attach a serial port first to get the IP :)14:47
zeenixradiofree: i don't get any audio from MediaManager either14:48
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CTtpollardthe rpi serial cables work btw14:52
gunnarxalmost caught up on the IRC logs after a crazy month.  Celebrate with me...14:54
gunnarxmaybe I'll be around a bit more now (I could hope at least)14:55
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furyhi guys15:03
furyhow's it hanging?15:03
zeenixCTtpollard: ah good idea15:04
zeenixCTtpollard: i had one ordered already and was just sitting on my desk15:05
zeenixabout audio, am i supposed to get the audio through hdmi?15:05
zeenixdon't see an aux out15:05
CTtpollardYes15:05
CTtpollardThe Audio Manager demo should hook into pulseaudio15:06
CTtpollardif the sinks are working correctly15:06
zeenixi guess they are not then :(15:06
zeenixgunnarx: cool15:07
CTtpollardcheck the status of the pulseaudio user unit, that#d be my first stop15:07
CTtpollardIt likes to fail15:08
CTtpollardIf it's stopped working in master, then there's a regression somewhere15:13
zeenixwhat's the root password again?15:26
zeenixdefault one15:26
zeenixoh, it *is* root15:30
zeenixi must have mistyped15:30
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CTtpollardzeenix: https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-329 might be of relevance15:39
zeenixCTtpollard: what's the name of the pulseaudio unit i'm looking for?15:42
zeenix`systemctl list-units --all '*pulse*'` doesnt show anything interesting15:42
CTtpollardit should be in /etc/systemd/user/pulseaudio.servic15:43
CTtpollardjournalctl --user-unit pulseaudio15:43
zeenixwell the command is running at least15:45
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CTtpollardand the append for the hw seat is still in the append https://github.com/GENIVI/meta-genivi-dev/blob/master/meta-genivi-dev/recipes-multimedia/pulseaudio/pulseaudio_%25.bbappend15:45
zeenixit complains about null-monitor source though: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/528353/14845815/15:46
CTtpollardI *think* that's normal on the minnow15:46
CTtpollarddoes aplay -l still list the devices?15:47
CTtpollard-L actually15:48
jaragunde{M}hi zeenix, now I see that link... Is `somerecipe_%.bbappend` a wildcard for any version?15:48
zeenixCTtpollard: it does indeed15:49
zeenixCTtpollard: wonder if it could be the LILLIPUT monitor :)15:50
zeenixjaragunde{M}: hi, what link?15:50
zeenixjaragunde{M}: but yes, afaik15:50
CTtpollardzeenix: does 'play -D plughw:0,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' work15:51
CTtpollardor /dev/random15:51
jaragunde{M}the link to `pulseaudio_%.bbappend` :) Thanks, I'll use that in the chromium-wayland recipe, specially because I'm working to fast-forward to a newer chromium15:51
CTtpollards/play/aplay15:52
zeenixCTtpollard: device busy15:54
zeenixjaragunde{M}: i think you're confusing me with CTtpollard15:54
jaragunde{M}woops, yes, CTPolard pasted that link, and you pasted a different one immediately below O:-) Thanks to both anyway!15:55
CTtpollardbut yes, % is a wildcard15:58
CTtpollardbitbake-layers show-appends will show you if it's associating correctly if you wanted to double check15:59
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zeenixinteresting, there are no pulse source/sink gstreamer elements16:13
zeenixon gdp image16:13
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waltminerGood morning!16:21
gunnarxRzR, about https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/5mkfrj/which_car_should_a_software_developer_should_buy/16:22
gunnarxa lot of confused comments as is often the case...16:23
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gunnarx"push to move to AUTOSAR" in what way would that make the car more hackable/open?16:25
CTtpollardI presumed that user was you gunnarx16:25
zeenixthe only car i'm love with is Renault Zoe16:26
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zeenixis it legal in Sweden to say you love any other cars than Volvo? :P16:27
CTtpollardas long as it's Koenigsegg16:27
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gunnarxCTtpollard, all:  For the record:  "ganderso" is NOT me16:32
CTtpollard:P16:32
gunnarxwhoever it is, his comment is all over the place16:32
gunnarxBut I have to admit, the fact that many that look into the automotive industry "from outside" get it all wrong is a testament to the industry being closed and hard to understand...16:33
gunnarxlike:  "push to move to AUTOSAR" happened 10 years ago I thought?16:34
reinar> For instance check PSA APIs (French manufacturer) is open to 3rd party development [...]16:34
reinarwell, if this is an example of desired "API", any car with obd port and good community will do16:34
gunnarxreinar, assuming you know or can reverse engineer the exact signal IDs though16:35
gunnarxOn that topic - still fighting the good fight...  :-P  https://github.com/GENIVI/vehicle_signal_specification/16:36
reinargunnarx: that's where 'good community' part plays role ;)16:36
gunnarxgot it16:37
gunnarxOBD is really the lowest level of interface...  Ah, I remember the days.  Many years ago measuring and plotting torque and rpm on an old boss's brand new personal Volvo.    When he looked at the speed curve we also provided from our little test run, he was not amused.16:39
gunnarxzeenix, it's legal to say you love SAAB16:42
gunnarxyou will be laughed at, but it's legal16:43
gunnarxjk16:43
gunnarxI feel bad now...  SAABs are/were awesome16:46
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waltminerthe only car a sw developer needs is a 1968 VW bus16:52
gunnarxsounds more like that would contain surfboards than computers, waltminer :)16:58
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waltminerof course17:04
reinar>  Ah, I remember the days.  Many years ago measuring and plotting torque and rpm on an old boss's brand new personal Volvo.17:13
reinarnow it's done by chinese head units this way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCsKWWZ8Yfk17:13
reinarOBDII bluetooth dongle and android application17:14
reinarI think it's better than buying a brand new car with some sort of 'cloud api'17:14
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furyi just set up a gitlab server with ci on the box i use to build agl...could i use that to set up an AGL OTA update demo? it would be cool to do a demo where i change something on my laptop, commit it to gitlab, have it run some tests, and deploy to an AGL head unit17:31
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dl9pffury: look at the bottom of https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/subsystem/agl-sota/ostree , you just need to serve the ostree_repo folder over http17:37
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furysweet17:43
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furyhmm18:06
furymy porter does not appear to be booting up O_o18:06
furytime to dig out the serial terminal18:07
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mranostaydl9pf: ping18:25
dl9pfpong18:28
dl9pffury: ser2net can be interesting  (serial port to tcp/network bridge)18:29
furyorly18:29
mranostaydl9pf: so currently gstreamer-0.10.36-r2 is being built.. is that the incorrect version of gstreamer?18:31
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dl9pfwhich board ?18:31
mranostayor a certain board using 1.6.318:32
mranostaydl9pf: rpi3 and porter18:32
dl9pfporter:18:33
dl9pfhttps://git.automotivelinux.org/AGL/meta-renesas/tree/meta-rcar-gen2/conf/machine/include/rcar-gen2-providers.inc18:33
dl9pfthat pulls it down to the vendor version18:33
furyis agl-sota broken for porter on master at the moment?18:33
furyi just got an error when trying to build18:34
dl9pfprobably would need a fix-up in the "else" if I look at it... aren't we at 1.8 in morty ?18:34
furyhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/LTOfuDAP/18:34
dl9pffury: yes.18:34
furyah ok18:34
dl9pffix is in review18:34
furydoes it work on chinook?18:34
furyoh ok18:34
furycool18:34
dl9pfyes18:34
dl9pfchinook is fine18:34
dl9pfmaster moved to newer yocto version last week18:34
dl9pf-> morty18:34
furyi saw, i was like ooh progress bars!18:34
fury:D18:34
dl9pfyep ;)18:35
dl9pfeye candy18:35
mranostaydl9pf: ah so it is defaulting to the older one since it can't find the preferred versions?18:35
dl9pfThat switch 'USE_MULTIMEDIA' in https://git.automotivelinux.org/AGL/meta-renesas/tree/meta-rcar-gen2/conf/machine/include/rcar-gen2-providers.inc18:36
dl9pfis merely a "USE_PARTLY_BINARY_VENDOR_MULTIMEDIA_BLOBS" = 118:36
dl9pfso it pull's things down to a matching gstreamer version18:36
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mranostaydl9pf: ah of course... I bet i don't have that turned on18:37
dl9pfand the 1.6.% in https://git.automotivelinux.org/AGL/meta-renesas/tree/meta-rcar-gen2/conf/machine/include/rcar-gen2-providers.inc  shoud meanwhile actually be a 1.8.%18:37
dl9pfso thats it for porter ... lets see the rpi ...18:38
dl9pfhmm, the rpi should actually build gstreamer 1.8.%18:38
dl9pfno pull-down in  conf/machine/include/rpi-default-versions.inc18:40
mranostaydl9pf: I don't see a gstreamer 1.8 recipe in any of the layers18:40
mranostayhas that not been pulled from morty yet?18:40
dl9pfhttps://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit.cgi/poky/tree/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer?h=morty  ?18:40
dl9pflooks like 1.8.318:41
dl9pfso   poky/meta/recipes-multimedia/gstreamer should contain that in master18:41
dl9pfif not we've a bug in the AGL-repo18:41
* mranostay repo syncs to be sure18:43
dl9pfThe big hammer if unsure:18:45
dl9pfrepo sync --force-sync -d18:45
dl9pfor18:45
dl9pf# but keep .repo18:45
dl9pfrm -rf meta-* poky18:45
dl9pfrepo sync --force-sync18:45
mranostaydl9pf: not seeing any 1.0 gstreamer recipes except for 1.2.3 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/u1T57Ngd/18:47
mranostaydl9pf: you have the same results?18:49
dl9pfhuch, there must be gstreamer recipes in poky18:49
mranostaydl9pf: ah!18:49
dl9pfhttp://paste.debian.net/909031/18:50
furyeeeh18:50
mranostaydl9pf: yeah see it now18:50
furychinook didn't build either18:50
dl9pfonly in bsp or bsp-shim18:51
dl9pffury: pastebin18:51
furyhttp://pastebin.com/mNBLB34G18:51
mranostaydl9pf: that still begs the question do we need 1.6% for anything?18:51
dl9pfno, that was default in krogoth, for porter + morty we'd have to  s/1.6.%/1.8.%/g in those files (=bug!)18:52
furyconfig was done with source meta-agl/scripts/aglsetup.sh -b build-porter -m porter agl-demo agl-appfw-smack agl-devel agl-sota18:53
dl9pfso any 1.6.% is likely a FIXME18:53
dl9pffury: that looks right18:53
dl9pffury: retry once ...18:53
mranostaydl9pf: FIXME?18:53
furywill do, waiting on qtwebkit to finish compiling, don't want to wait around for that one again :P18:53
mranostayto 1.8% you mean18:53
dl9pfhttp://paste.debian.net/909032/    yes,   s/1.6.%/1.8.%/g18:54
mranostaydl9pf: should I submit a patch to remove that original bbappend for 1.6.3 once i test 1.8% works for the targets18:54
dl9pfThe bbappend might be ported to 1.8.3  if it is still needed.  If its unneeded,  remove it pls. That would be great.18:55
mranostayok will look into that today18:56
dl9pfcool18:57
mranostaybtw what broke the sdimg builds for rpi3?18:57
dl9pf2 things actually:18:59
dl9pf1) morty change the image creation process a little and we wrote our own class -> dang (fix in review)18:59
dl9pf2) devicetree files are named differently in morty --> dang#2  (still open)18:59
furythat appears to have worked O_o dunno18:59
dl9pffury: ok, might be 2 things ... either we have a missing build-time dependency (likely) and its fulfilled meanwhile18:59
furychinook built way faster than i'm used to seeing19:00
dl9pfhost sstate-cache ?19:00
dl9pfhot sstate-cache ?19:00
furyusually took 45-50 minutes last month, now it's only been like 25-30 minutes19:00
mranostayah right i noticed the devicetree error19:00
furyhmm19:00
furyyes19:00
furyi do have sstate-cache19:00
furyforgot about that19:00
dl9pfmranostay:  yep the devicetree is still an issue19:00
furythese are the warnings i got when the first build failed, not sure if it lends any clues as to the missing dependency:19:04
furyhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Q1PD1HvL/19:04
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dl9pfnothing related19:05
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furyhmm...19:43
furyi got chinook up on my porter, but it doesn't appear to be doing anything except highlighting the icons when i touch19:44
furywhat'd i miss :P19:44
furyand i hate dell for making a workstation with such a broken SD card reader that i have to shut off the machine fully and turn it back on before it works again...that's going to put a bit of a damper in my plans to use that box for gitlab/ci/AGL building19:45
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dl9pffury19:57
dl9pfyou have to install the apps19:57
furyah19:57
dl9pflog-in on serial19:57
dl9pfthen do19:57
dl9pfcd /usr/AGL/apps19:58
dl9pfthere is an install all apps script19:58
dl9pfrun that19:58
furygot it20:01
furyooh kernel bug20:01
dl9pf??20:01
dl9pfscreenshot / log20:01
furytried to run the radio20:01
furyis that not working20:01
dl9pfdo you have a usb-sdr dongle plugged-in ?20:01
furyyu20:01
furyp20:01
dl9pfhmm, worked for me actually ...20:02
dl9pfbut you're on porter and the 3.10 kernel, right ?20:02
furyyep20:02
dl9pfhmm, can you pastebin the oops ?20:02
furyhopping onto that laptop, brb20:02
furyhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AiTeT8tt/20:03
furythis was right after i installed all apps, tapped the radio app, selected a station that i'm in range of, and hit the play button20:03
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dl9pfyes.20:05
furyrebooted the porter, tried again, heard a second of radio, then silence20:05
furyand now blank home screen20:05
dl9pfI assume that 3.10 is instable or too old for the API we use.20:06
dl9pfyes, it end in an memory alloc failure in the kernel - likely a kernel bug.20:06
furyok now i hear the radio. high pitched whine sound tho20:06
furythis one got a different warning O_o20:07
dl9pfit might be sporadic when using the tuning api20:07
furyhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/lwifb53x/20:07
dl9pfpaste both in jira20:08
furyk :D20:08
dl9pfnote that there is also: https://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-32220:09
dl9pfrestriction in the driver20:09
furyyeah, familiar with that one. i ran AGL long enough to hit that a few times a while back20:10
furythanks for all the help :D20:10
dl9pfnp20:10
furyhttps://jira.automotivelinux.org/browse/SPEC-41820:28
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mranostaydl9pf:  so i noticed the gstreamer1-0-plugins-bad.git from ti is still at 1.6.323:45
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* mranostay tests the bbappend without the SRC_REV and SRC_URI23:50
mranostayseems the bbappend is still needed for the faad support23:50
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