IRC logs for #automotive for Tuesday, 2016-09-20

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erboCTtpollard: now I am05:57
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CTtpollarderbo: as am I :)07:52
CTtpollarderbo: I've built and flashed the Pelagicore spin for minnowboard, but it seems to stick on launching some systemd services08:17
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erboCTtpollard: yeah it's really not ready yet. You can switch to another virtual terminal and launch the ui manually for now if you want to. Something like "cd /opt/neptune/ ; appman -c /opt/am/config.yaml -c /opt/neptune/am-config.yaml -r -platform eglfs Main.qml"08:33
erboShould bring up the UI I think08:33
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erboWe'll work on it quite a bit in the coming weeks before AMM I guess08:34
CTtpollardI'll give it a go :)08:34
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erbo"your mileage might vary" ;)08:36
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chbaehello11:48
CTtpollardhi chbae11:53
toscalixhi chbae12:22
chbaehello. I see GDP11 uses audiomanager 7.0.12:24
CTtpollardinitially at least, yes12:32
toscalixchbae: the plugins do not work. We cannot fix them by ourselves12:32
toscalixAm 7.4 introduces significant changes and the plugins need to be modified12:33
chbaeyep. that's good decision.12:33
toscalixchbae: is it possible for you to take in this release the responsibility of dragonboard?12:34
toscalixwe can assume rpi3, but not both12:34
chbaetoscalix: sure. I can.12:34
toscalixif you can, we ship it as first class citizen. If not, we support it in Master only12:35
toscalixah, great12:35
toscalixwe will have dragonboard then12:35
toscalixgood news12:35
chbaeyep.12:35
toscalixI am preparing this afternoon the release plan in tasks12:35
toscalixit will take me a few hours. Hopefully tomorrow morning I will let you know where to track the effort. We will coordinate it before the GDP call in the maintainers meeting, if you can attend12:36
CTtpollardI'm trying to use wic still for the minnowboard images, it works but has to reconfigure the swap partition on first boot12:36
chbaeI'll join.12:36
toscalixCTtpollard: and is it possible to avoid that step, to ease the first boot?12:37
toscalixif not we will have to document it12:37
CTtpollardWe can provide non dd'able images as we did with rc1 for the minnowboard12:38
CTtpollardit's not critical either way12:39
toscalixwe will advance the deployment one day compared with RC1 so we have a few extra hours to focus on documenting the instructions12:41
toscalixand an extra day in case we need to re-deploy12:42
toscalixincluding the timezone difference12:42
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paulsherwoodtardyp: CTtpollard may be a good startpoint13:44
tardypCTtpollard: hello, interrested in discussing the state of CI for genivi projects?13:45
CTtpollardSure, don't mind sharing what I know :)13:46
tardypI can see a lot of people using different tools. yocto uses buildbot, genivi go.ci rockbase used to use buildbot, and now more into concourse and gitlab-ci13:46
tardypI'm comming from an Android team who had pre-commit CI based on gerrit reviews13:47
tardypeach gerrit review is fully tested before entering the mailine13:48
CTtpollardtardyp: if you want to take a look around http://go.genivi.org/go13:48
tardypI wonder if there is somebody in the genivi industry who is also doin g that13:48
CTtpollardcertain pipelines do pre merge testing via github13:48
tardypCTtpollard: indeed, paulsherwood gave me that link13:48
CTtpollardfor instance, the yocto GDP project does pre merge validation (build, not deploy as of yet)13:49
tardypthis one right? http://go.genivi.org/go/pipelines/meta-ivi-Yocto-QEMU_x86-64-GITHUB-PR/5/Build/113:50
CTtpollardthere's also testing on meta-ivi yes (the baseline)13:50
CTtpollardfor instance http://go.genivi.org/go/pipelines/GDP-Yocto-RPI2-meta-genivi-dev-GITHUB-PR/20/build/1 tested this https://github.com/GENIVI/genivi-dev-platform/pull/4613:50
CTtpollardlooks like something is problematic with the gui reporting back to the PR however13:51
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tardypIs there something that resolves the problem of updating the .bb sha1 when a  project source code is updated13:58
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CTtpollarddo you mean, in terms of yocto?13:59
tardypyes13:59
CTtpollardit depends, you can track hard refs, tag/branches or just master etc13:59
CTtpollardit's common to expand the package version (PV) as to track a release branch14:00
rajmIn init.sh CTtpollard the supported list now equals the target list of boards but I think we can continue to check against supported for any future changes?14:01
CTtpollardrajm: I see no harm in keeping the routine for future release cycles14:02
rajmgood!14:02
toscalixRelease plan: https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-37614:03
toscalixproposal14:03
tardypCTtpollard: if you use PV to track release branch you cannot do pre-commit tests for this project for example14:03
toscalixon Wed we will close the dates, hopefully14:04
tardypI was trying to resolve the problem of a kernel patch that needs to be tested against a yocto baseline (built by yocto)14:04
toscalixduring the GDP call14:04
tardypI have a PoC of that which is hacking the bitbake system to switch the git branches for the relevent reciepe via a inherit bbclass14:05
tardypI was wondering if somebody else did also resolve this problem14:05
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tardypthis is the way we do with android. All the source code of a company is maintained in the same repository environment and is always tested without a packaging phase14:06
tardypthis resolves some problems, and pause others...14:06
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CTtpollardtardyp: Heh, I know what you mean. Usually it's safer to track hard refs / tags, but I'd like to have some sort of CI that did pre merge on every new commit. GDP uses git submodules for example, which uses refs not branch tracking14:07
CTtpollard*mostly14:07
tardypok. there is also the idea of CIAT firehose, which is creating patches in the metadata to update the refs. What do you think about it?14:13
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paulsherwoodtardyp: i think that's one of the baserock ideas that folks didn't like very much14:48
tardyppaulsherwood: interresting.. Its one of the baerock idea I like the most :)15:07
paulsherwood:-)15:08
paulsherwoodtardyp: my personal favourites are 1) everythying from git and 2) all metadata in yaml15:09
tardypeverything from git as opposed to release tarballs?15:11
paulsherwoodyup15:12
* paulsherwood has shouted this from the rooftops, and remains astonished at how otherwise intelligent people keep preferring their dumb pre-git workflows15:13
tardypit indeed simplifies lots of stuff, especially manifest generation15:14
tardypandroid do that as well with it's repo tool15:15
tardypgoogle has been integrating a lot of oss forks in their own git15:15
tardypnow they are coming back from that, and are talking about having some kind of emerge built-into the android build system to fetch untouch oss15:16
paulsherwoodwhat is the 'android build system' these days?15:16
tardypand that tool will be fetching tarballs15:16
tardypits being transitioned to a ninja build15:16
tardypwith a preprocessor parsing makefiles, and translating this to ninja15:17
tardypwhile they have another preprocessor ( blueprint ) which is more translating a more structured json like build description into ninja15:17
tardypso everything is a bit frankenstein during the transition with some of the components described with .mk other with .bp, and now there is that emerge stuff that is not yet released15:18
paulsherwoodwtf :)15:20
* paulsherwood googles ninja build15:21
paulsherwooderk15:21
tardypits very fast. a huge progress for android15:22
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