IRC logs for #automotive for Monday, 2016-08-22

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gunnarxWhy do we have so many tickets about the same thing everywhere...08:31
CTtpollardjira \o/08:32
gunnarxtickets that relate to, or block each other all over the place.  it's so confusing08:32
gunnarxCTtpollard, is toscalix back today?08:33
CTtpollardthis afternoon I believe08:34
gunnarxOK.  I'd like right now to break down all the parts of the assembling of the full SDK , a lot of it is happening, but we need to track what's getting done and not.08:34
gunnarxSo I guess I'll just pick a ticket and create the subtasks there?08:35
CTtpollardI presume tool-65 subtasks, but I'm with you on jira bloat08:37
gunnarx yeah but there's also tool-60, which is a parent to tool-65...08:40
gunnarxI'd like to see us write down specific doable work tasks here, i.e. avoid the "analysis" angle.08:41
gunnarxI'll go with tool-60 as parent - the important thing is to actually do it08:46
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chbaeive14:30
gunnarxOh, how I wish I could add watchers to JIRA TICKETS!14:31
gunnarxwhy, oh why!!!14:31
gunnarxCTtpollard, rajm, jeremiah, pedroalvarez :  For your information: https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/TOOL-10714:32
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pedroalvarezgunnarx: omg14:34
pedroalvarezall software is broken14:34
gunnarxreally, that bad?14:35
gunnarxit's not that bad.... it doesn't affect critical operations fortunately :)14:35
gunnarxThe Go people assumes git:// protocol exists, not totally unreasonable... but yeah, a bug still14:36
gunnarx I wouldn't mind if we could get the component builds back online though.  all else fails I'm just going to fork them to GitHub :)14:37
pedroalvarezheh, you can use git.baserock.org mirrors14:38
pedroalvarezwhich are going to be updated automatically14:38
gunnarxpretty good idea actually14:38
gunnarxI don't care where the bits come from - I'm a really open and friendly guy that way :)14:38
pedroalvarezI'll look at pointing the mirrors at github asap14:39
pedroalvarez(didn't find a reason before)14:39
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gunnarxpedroalvarez, Github?  In this case we're talking only about repos at git.projects...  The ones at GitHub are no problem.14:41
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pedroalvareztrue14:42
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pedroalvarezalthough at least I should check they are mirroring from http://14:43
pedroalvarezright gunnarx?14:44
CTtpollardgunnarx: long shot but can you not add ;protocol=http to the end of the repo string?14:45
gunnarxI don't think that's a syntax GoCD recognizes?14:45
gunnarxI don't want HTTP, that's the thing14:45
gunnarx:)14:45
CTtpollardit's git syntax14:46
gunnarxoh14:46
gunnarxstill, don't want http so... I doubt it helps?14:46
CTtpollardso git://blah.git;protocol=http14:46
CTtpollardit's how the recipes get around the no git:// issue on git.genivi14:47
chbaeoriginally why genivi does stop supporting git protocol in git.genivi.org…?14:48
gunnarxchbae, I do not know.  jeremiah should know14:49
chbaeyep..14:49
CTtpollardgunnarx: I read the situation as go.cd only supports cloning over git://, but git.projects doesn't support cloning over git14:50
CTtpollardwhich is why I wondered if fetching the git url over http might make it work14:51
gunnarxdo you think git over http supports shallow clones?14:51
CTtpollardI have no idea14:52
gunnarxI'd be surprised. Isn't git://xxx;protocol=http expected to be exactly the same as git clone http://xxx ?14:53
gunnarxIn any case git://xxx;protocol=http.  I didn't know that was git syntax.  But it seems to hang just as just doing git://14:55
gunnarxHmm, I got a response on the GoCD bug.   They claim our git client is too old14:57
gunnarxThat's actually quite plausible.14:58
gunnarx... and easy to fix14:58
chbaegit://xxx;protocol=http is OE grammer.14:58
gunnarxThanks chbae for supporting me :)14:58
chbaeanother temp method is to use insteadOf in .gitconfig.14:58
chbaefyi: https://mraw.org/blog/2011/05/24/Git_tip_of_the_day_insteadOf/14:59
gunnarxOh, and "our" git client above, means the damn GoCD docker container that *I* built  ;)14:59
gunnarxchbae, (and CTtpollard )   None of the URL rewriting stuff is applicable to the problem, but thanks anyhow.15:00
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chbaegunnarx: corrent. or recovery git procotol support in git.genivi.org. Some companies also suffer from it included my company :(15:02
jeremiahHI15:03
jeremiahchbae: Supporting git protocol is just a lower priority15:03
jeremiahI imagine we can support it if you really need it chbae15:04
jeremiahMany companies with firewalls don't use it because it opens high ports which are often blocked15:04
jeremiahchbae: Would you like GENIVI to try and turn it on?15:05
chbaejeremiah: Hi. correct but my company used git protocol and now we changed.15:05
jeremiahSo you *don't* need this?15:05
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jeremiahgunnarx: do the Go.CD servers need this?15:06
jeremiahWith this == git protocol support in git.projects.g.o15:06
chbaejeremiah: if you have a little resources to maintain git protocol, i prefer to turning on it.15:06
gunnarxWell yes, I thought so but I got some feedback now on the bug report.  It looks like it might be git.projects that needs an update of the git version, and/or configuration.  I'll give you the references and you can read up on it.15:06
jeremiahThanks!15:07
jeremiahI'll read up and try and support this15:07
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chbaethanks.15:07
gunnarxA modern git supposedly can do shallow clones using also http.   That said, I too think supporting git:// is standard practice - those that don't use it simply don't use it.15:07
jeremiahchbae: I'll put it as a task in the OSSINFRA JIRA to track and make it a bit more 'official'15:07
jeremiahYep. I guess I was prematurely optimising when I turned it off15:08
chbaejeremiah: sure. and do you have any plan to support premirror about baseline and development platform?15:08
jeremiahchbae: I think GENIVI IT would like to support tooling and configuration that helps folks build GENIVI software15:08
jeremiahThat said, I don't know much abouty the "premirror"15:09
jeremiahIf you could point out some documentation I'll read that too15:09
jeremiahGENIVI's git version is: git version 2.1.415:11
chbaefyi: http://downloads.yoctoproject.org/mirror/sources/15:11
chbaeSpecifies additional paths from which the OpenEmbedded build system gets source code. When the build system searches for source code, it first tries the local download directory. If that location fails, the build system tries locations defined by PREMIRRORS, the upstream source, and then locations specified by MIRRORS in that order.15:12
jeremiahAh, okay, thanks15:12
chbaeFYI: http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/1.8/ref-manual/ref-manual.html#var-PREMIRRORS :)15:12
jeremiahIt looks like there are a ton of patches there15:12
jeremiahAnd the request would be for GENIVI to host a "PREMIRROR"?15:13
chbaeyep.15:13
jeremiahSeems reasonable to me. :-)15:14
jeremiahI'll file this as a "TODO" in the GENIVI OSS team.15:15
jeremiahBTW, the OSS team is where we're tracking IT issues15:15
gunnarxOK, I have now made enough noise and you can now go back to your normal work while Jeremiah looks into this  :-)15:16
chbaeok. thanks.15:19
gunnarxlol. you are welcome, chbae15:19
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jeremiahchbae: https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=1&projectKey=OSSINFR&view=detail&selectedIssue=OSSINFR-8515:31
chbaejeremiah: cool.15:32
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jeremiahlol --> Aug 22 09:01:24 git1 git-daemon[32201]: Ready to rumble16:02
jeremiahHaven't tested this yet so please don't hammer it with tons of bots16:02
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jeremiaho_O16:03
jeremiahI think we need a firewall hole, so you're likely hitting a GIANT WALL OF FIRE16:03
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jeremiahSo, the git:// protocol is enabled, at least according to the git-daemon log17:54
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jeremiahIf there are any issues, please file a bug or ping me here.17:54
gunnarxEverything seems back on track - components building happily.18:15
gunnarxSo I'll just clean up my upstream bug report and we should be done18:15
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peepsalotanyone familiar with j1939?  i'm wondering if there is any better way to determine which PGN are supported on a vehicle besides brute force requesting all ~9000 of them22:27
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