IRC logs for #automotive for Wednesday, 2016-07-13

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CTtpollardgood morning07:38
CTtpollardah thushi is gone07:39
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* asafshohet Hi, I'm having trouble executing "bitbake agl-demo-platform" command.10:20
asafshohetWhat I did is:10:21
asafshohethttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/JUcbsMfS/10:21
asafshohetbit the error I receive is "ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'agl-demo-platform'"10:21
asafshohetIs anyone familiar with this issue?10:22
CTtpollarddid 'source meta-agl/scripts/aglsetup.sh -m qemux86-64' complete?10:23
asafshohetyes10:24
asafshohetalso 'bitbake virtual/kernel' is working fine...10:24
CTtpollardit sounds like bitbake is not parsing the image recipe10:25
asafshohetyep.. but I don10:25
asafshohet't understand why10:25
CTtpollardwhich usually points to a problem in bblayers10:25
CTtpollardcan you do bitbake-layer show-layers?10:26
CTtpollard*bitbake-layers10:26
asafshohethttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/R39xH2ug/10:26
asafshohetindeed the folder "meta-agl-demo" doesn't exist there10:27
asafshohetthat's what I noticed as well... but I didn't manage to fix it10:27
CTtpollardhave you tried to add the path for it to bblayers.conf?10:28
CTtpollardI'm not 100% sure, but I think you've probably not got the build env got agl-demo-platform, instead just the baseline provided by meta-agl10:29
CTtpollardor, 'unified codebase'10:30
asafshohetI have the folder meta-agl-demo which contains the recipe "agl-demo-platform". but this folder isn't in BBLAYERS10:31
asafshohetI tried adding "${METADIR}/meta-agl-demo \ " to BBLAYERS in bblayers.conf10:31
asafshohetbut then I got another error: ERROR: ParseError at /home/dev/AGL/meta-agl-demo/recipes-automotive/climatecontrolplugin/climatecontrolplugin_0.1.bb:18: Could not inherit file classes/qmake5.bbclass10:32
asafshohetbut this file ("qmake5.bbclass") exists, so perhapas there's something wrong in the folders' structure...10:33
CTtpollardagl recently switched to a new init script format, there may well me an issue with it10:35
CTtpollardany idea leon-anavi? ^10:35
asafshohetOK.. I've added the following lines to BBLAYERS:10:42
asafshohethttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nwxKnrvX/10:42
asafshohetand now it seems to work! :)10:43
CTtpollardnot sure which of the AGL guys will be around on here during ALS10:43
CTtpollardgreat :)10:45
pedroalvarezcontribute to upstream!10:45
CTtpollardindeed :)10:45
pedroalvarezhttps://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/62445386.jpg10:46
rjek:)10:47
leon-anavihi CTtpollard, yes, indeed AGL switched to a new init script and it causes issues because the documentation has not been updated yet10:57
leon-anaviI also suffered from it10:57
asafshohetBad news.. I received an error during baking: "Fetcher failure for URL: 'http://downloads.sourceforge.net/freetype/ft2demos-2.6.tar.bz2;name=ft2demos'. Checksum mismatch!11:01
asafshohetFile: '/home/argus/Asaf/build/downloads/ft2demos-2.6.tar.bz2' has md5 checksum 0103b909e19ca9c6497a7ae696c16480 when c6c209b37f10621d6ff100620b8292b4 was expected"11:01
asafshohetbut I see sourceForge is in some weird state, so I'll try again later ("The sourceforge.net website is temporarily in static offline mode.11:02
asafshohetOnly a very limited set of project pages are available until the main website returns to service.")11:02
CTtpollardwhat layers is the recipe for that coming from?11:02
CTtpollardthat is quite nasty though11:05
asafshohetthe recipe is :".../poky/meta/recipes-graphics/freetype/freetype_2.6.bb "11:05
asafshohetthe layer is poky/meta11:05
CTtpollardeven more worrying11:05
asafshohetwhat could be the cause for this?11:06
CTtpollardI'm currently getting quite a few sum failures from sourcefourge11:07
asafshohetPerhaps it is because sourceForge isn't 'online'. it is temporarily in static offline mode11:08
CTtpollardlots of recipes dropping back to attempting other sources11:08
CTtpollardasafshohet: I'm asking in #yocto11:09
CTtpollardasafshohet: all of mine are failing with the same checksum, maybe it's offering some temp dummy file11:12
CTtpollardfor instance11:12
CTtpollarde2fsprogs-1.42.9.tar.gz_bad-checksum_0103b909e19ca9c6497a7ae696c1648011:12
asafshohetOK. so let's wait for SourceForge to gain its power back11:14
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radiofreeyou really need to setup a mirror for this stuff11:19
gunnarxCTtpollard:  I found and fixed a bug in the pipeline for meta-genivi-dev (affected porter only)11:19
gunnarx It was introduced during my recent consolidation effort...  just so you know CTtpollard and rajm11:21
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CTtpollardgunnarx: thanks for reporting it11:38
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CTtpollardoh the JLR webinar starts soon13:05
CTtpollardhttp://automotivemegatrends.com/continuous-software-integration-interacting-with-connected-cars/13:06
CTtpollardI can't make it, but im glad it is being recorded13:07
rajm#registers13:11
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CTtpollardasafshohet: not seeing errors fetching from sourceforge right now13:38
asafshohetCTtpollard: I get the same errors. During the bitbake process and also in SourceForge site as well.13:47
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CTtpollardawesome.... :/13:48
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ToxicGumbo-workMatt Jones video about 4 minutes in, 87 attendees.14:03
rjek"webinar"14:04
radiofreeis there a stream?14:05
rjekYes, but you have to give a marketing company your name, address, phone number, inside leg measurement, family health history, and answer four general knowledge questions before they give you the link.14:05
radiofreeand then is the stream using webex?14:06
rjekProbably14:06
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CTtpollardhi chbae14:11
CTtpollard:(14:11
chbaeone second.14:12
CTtpollardwe can try skype if needs be14:12
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leon-anavihm... I am having connection issues with the GDP open call.15:25
CTtpollardsorry leon-anavi I didn't check irc during it15:33
CTtpollardwe've just finished15:33
CTtpollardhi thushi_ !15:33
leon-anavino problem, I managed to login after that and even to say "See you next week" ;)15:33
leon-anaviit was a temporary issue on my side (actually on my mac only) so I missed less than 2 min.15:34
thushi_CTtpollard Hey15:34
CTtpollardusing the mac so you can use your nice mic?15:34
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CTtpollardthushi_: sorry I missed your last comments here, I was not in the office before you left :)15:35
thushi_Cttpollard : No problem, After I left here I went to office ;)  I guess I found the answer, Need to setup the qemu right? I am almost done with the setup, I am actually building it from the sources on 16.04. Lets see how it goes15:37
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CTtpollardthushi_: yeh so we use yocto to build GDP for various targets, if you're interested in x86 you could build the qemu image or the minnowboard image15:42
CTtpollardin terms of development, gdp supports the yocto SDK15:42
thushi_CTtpollard: The yocto SDK is a virtualbox image?15:43
gunnarxthushi_, No, you just install the prerequisites for yocto, they are not so many15:43
gunnarxhttps://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/current/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.html#packages15:44
thushi_gunnarx CTtpollard : You are talking about this I guess https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/Intrepid+-+Yocto+GDP+SDK+build+and+setup15:44
gunnarxWell that page is actually supporting an older version of GDP15:44
gunnarxHowever most of the steps should work15:45
gunnarxDepends on what you want to do.  If you want to compile the system, just follow instructions needed to use Yocto.  If you want to develop on top of GDP once it is compiled, then the page you refer to relates to that.15:45
gunnarxThere is a little work remaining do to package the creation of such SDKs repeatably so for now only the Wiki instructions...  Maybe someone else has something to add15:46
Tarnykohi ; does anybody else have issues with freetype (sourceforge URL unavailable) when rebuilding from scratch ?15:46
CTtpollardTarnyko: sourceforge is failing today15:47
CTtpollardpresume you're getting a checksum failure?15:47
CTtpollardTarnyko: http://sourceforge.net/error-404.html15:47
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TarnykoCTtpollard: yes, but that pretty much answers my question... thx !15:47
gunnarxpeople still use sourceforge? :)15:48
CTtpollardTarnyko: np :)15:48
CTtpollarda lot of core poky packages still fetch from sourceforge15:48
gunnarxIt's feels like one of those shoddy "Download your shareware binaries here" sites nowadays.15:48
gunnarxriddled with commercials15:49
CTtpollardit seems it fails with the same checksum everytime, I presume it's just pulling in the same html page or the like15:49
gunnarxs/advertising15:49
gunnarxlike "get rid of wrinkles with a weird trick => click here <=" :)15:50
Tarnykohaha15:50
CTtpollardgunnarx: maybe it is using goog adsense to track your shopping history15:50
gunnarxouch, that was low15:50
CTtpollard;)15:51
gunnarxI mean the insinuation that I don't know how to avoid Google tracking my purchases of "anti-aging for men"!15:51
TarnykoSourceforge tried a new business model once : shipping adware in binary packages for FOSS software. They made it to LWN and lots of online news sites with it, but it didn't help....15:52
gunnarxugh, you see what I mean15:52
gunnarxthey've had some hacks serving tainted binaries too I recently saw.15:53
gunnarxpoor sourceforge15:53
Tarnykoyes, looks like the ultimate gasp15:53
gunnarxGood thing we love rebuilding from source.  over and over and over again...15:54
gunnarxsafer15:55
gunnarxunless you've read Ken Thompson of course! :)15:56
gunnarxwhich you should have...15:58
TarnykoI was read (religiously) some pages from Dennis Ritchie once16:00
gunnarxthat's good too16:00
gunnarxbut never gave me the same "mind blown" effect16:01
Tarnykothen I should give it a gry (wasn't sure you were serious before)16:01
gunnarxI'm only talking specifically about trusting trust.  You know it?16:02
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Tarnykonot really16:05
gunnarxAnyone who never have read "trusting trust", go do it *right now* :)16:05
gunnarxI remember the day... probably 20 years ago now16:06
Tarnykohaha ok, will do :)16:06
gunnarxIn short, it just tells you that unless you wrote your own gcc by hand you are screwed, security wise16:06
gunnarxeven if you study the source code of gcc and compile your own gcc from source :)16:06
gunnarx(because you compile it with gcc...) :)16:07
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gunnarxIt's a 2-3 page paper only and totally amazing.16:09
Tarnykoeven if you write your own operating system and compiler, you're still dependant on the hardware... I would put more trust in software than in hardware... the thing is that the whole chain is incredibly complex, and we're all co-dependent16:09
Tarnykothis one ? http://www.ece.cmu.edu/~ganger/712.fall02/papers/p761-thompson.pdf16:09
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gunnarxtrue.  no the only nice thing is how well thus paper explains one idea16:12
gunnarxyes that is it16:12
Tarnyko"Since this is an exercise divorced from reality, the usual language was FORTRAN" I already like it16:12
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Tarnykooooh yes, that was a good read, thx16:20
gunnarxyou're welcome16:23
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gunnarxHave to go, but by the way Schneider covered a very cool countermeasure to the trusting-trust attack (he did not come up with it but it's easier to google him).  It's very clever.16:37
gunnarxs/Schneider/Schneier/  I know it but never get it right :)16:40
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