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leon-anavi | morning | 06:34 |
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CTtpollard | hi o/ | 07:11 |
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rajm | morning! | 07:18 |
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CTtpollard | pipelines failed again due to the same error | 07:35 |
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toscalix | rajm: we have a comment in https://at.projects.genivi.org/wiki/display/GDP/Raspberry+Pi+2%2C+3+%28RPi2%2C+RPi3%29+Hardware+Setup+and+Software+Installation | 07:59 |
toscalix | do you know the anwer to the issue? | 08:00 |
toscalix | or CTtpollard? | 08:00 |
toscalix | if not, let's see if chbae can help later | 08:00 |
CTtpollard | checking now | 08:01 |
CTtpollard | hmm, nothing wrong with that fetch here | 08:02 |
toscalix | I wonder if we should include in every target board wiki page the link to the mailing list and a refrence to the IRC channel | 08:02 |
CTtpollard | replied | 08:04 |
rajm | Worked for me yesterday too | 08:04 |
CTtpollard | git clone git://code.qt.io/qt/qtwebkit.git;branch=5.4 works fine, may have been a network hiccup at either end | 08:04 |
pedroalvarez | CTtpollard: same error after cleaning the sstate? all of them? | 08:09 |
CTtpollard | pedroalvarez: it seems that it manages to build it once from clean (I did porter first) and then fails subsequently with the same error, however they're all red right now but that's due to it being the parallel PR problem | 08:10 |
* paulsherwood wonders what 'cleaning sstate' means | 08:12 | |
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pedroalvarez | removing the contents of the sstate folder. I would compare it to the artifact cache folder in baserock, but is not quite the same | 08:15 |
toscalix | CTtpollard: any news about Silk I should report about? https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-121 | 08:16 |
toscalix | or is the ticket up to date? | 08:16 |
CTtpollard | let me take a look | 08:17 |
CTtpollard | toscalix: updated | 08:18 |
toscalix | thanks | 08:18 |
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leon-anavi | hi yannick__, how are you? | 10:01 |
yannick__ | hi leon-anavi : i am fine thanks, and you ? was your trip back smooth ? | 10:07 |
leon-anavi | yes, I am working hard on OSTree right now | 10:08 |
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leon-anavi | there are still a lot of things related to OSTree that I need to find out | 10:08 |
leon-anavi | how was your vacation? | 10:08 |
yannick__ | great thanks, quite a hard walk (some climbing at some point), but enjoyable. Now, I am currently diving inside the TEE API and looking for a signature check mechanism. | 10:10 |
yannick__ | i do not look ostree yet, but saw your gerrit proposal and have look asap. interaction between ostree<->optee is an open point | 10:13 |
yannick__ | also, that's great that linaro guy publish some recipes and plan to maintain op-tee. | 10:14 |
leon-anavi | yes | 10:14 |
leon-anavi | my patches add a Yocto/OE recipe for building the latest version of OSTree and its dependencies to AGL. | 10:15 |
leon-anavi | right now I am exploring how to adapt AGL to OSTree based system. | 10:15 |
leon-anavi | I have already read several times the appropriate chapter from the official documentation, tried out GNOME continuous in a virtual machine and I looked for hints in the source code of OSTree test. | 10:16 |
leon-anavi | I need more info for OSTree therefore earlier today I wrote to their mailing list. | 10:16 |
yannick__ | leon-anavi, ok, could you please share the pointer to their list? | 10:17 |
leon-anavi | sure | 10:18 |
leon-anavi | https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/OSTree | 10:18 |
leon-anavi | here is my message to their mailing list: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/ostree-list/2016-June/msg00001.html | 10:18 |
yannick__ | ok, thanks | 10:18 |
yannick__ | leon-anavi, i must go now but will go on these this afternoon. see u, thx | 10:20 |
leon-anavi | ok, see you | 10:21 |
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leon-anavi | I'm a bit late for the GDP open call, joining in a min | 15:05 |
toscalix | leon-anavi: we are done. The shortest one in a long time | 15:22 |
toscalix | since a big bunch of work this week was related with CI and tom pollard is not available | 15:23 |
leon-anavi | yes, I missed just 5 min so I was there for the rest 15 min ;) | 15:24 |
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RzR | toscalix, "Please remember that today's meeting will take place through IRC." good | 15:52 |
RzR | ;) | 15:52 |
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toscalix | RzR: hi | 16:01 |
toscalix | 1 min late | 16:01 |
toscalix | apologies | 16:01 |
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toscalix | === GENIVI Tools Team Meeting starts == | 16:02 |
toscalix | Agenda: | 16:02 |
toscalix | * IT status report (Nicolas 10 min) | 16:02 |
toscalix | * Git mirror status report (Jeremiah - 5 min) | 16:02 |
toscalix | * http://www.roguewave.com/ next steps (15 min) | 16:02 |
toscalix | * Update on the following tasks (In review / in progress): (10 min) | 16:02 |
toscalix | ** Gianpaolo: Tool 23, 51 | 16:02 |
toscalix | ** Helmut: Tool 48 | 16:02 |
toscalix | ** Gunnar: Tool 74, 77 | 16:02 |
toscalix | * AOB | 16:02 |
toscalix | Participants | 16:02 |
toscalix | Gunnar, Gianpaolo and Klaus will not attend | 16:02 |
* toscalix here | 16:03 | |
toscalix | jeremiah: steve_l ? | 16:03 |
toscalix | RzR: ? | 16:03 |
toscalix | hummm I hope I am not the only one missing in Webex call :-) | 16:04 |
jeremiah | Hiya! | 16:04 |
toscalix | :-) | 16:05 |
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toscalix | philrob: ? | 16:05 |
philrob | do we do webex or irc ? | 16:05 |
toscalix | IRC today | 16:05 |
jeremiah | Yeah, some of us are on Webex already | 16:05 |
toscalix | ah, ok, I am fine with moving to webex | 16:06 |
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jeremiah | Okay, we'll come to IRC now | 16:06 |
toscalix | ok | 16:06 |
steve_l | toscalix: I'm just lurking in case I'm asked something, else much to do this week :) | 16:06 |
gunnarx | Who is participating? | 16:07 |
toscalix | Participants: jeremiah steve_l gunnarx /me | 16:07 |
gunnarx | I know jeremiah toscalix philrob Nick myself, steve_l, ... | 16:07 |
toscalix | Nicholas is not here | 16:08 |
gunnarx | No klausb... | 16:08 |
toscalix | not today, family issues | 16:08 |
toscalix | so Gianpaolo | 16:08 |
toscalix | Let's start | 16:08 |
gunnarx | so=also in spanish, fyi | 16:08 |
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gunnarx | :) | 16:08 |
jeremiah | espangol? | 16:08 |
toscalix | :-) | 16:08 |
gunnarx | Any lurkers feel free to jump in of course. | 16:09 |
toscalix | We skip Nicholas report | 16:09 |
toscalix | of course | 16:09 |
gunnarx | OK we do it quick and dirty today then? | 16:09 |
toscalix | Git Mirror status | 16:09 |
toscalix | jeremiah: ? | 16:09 |
jeremiah | toscalix: Can we view TOOL 79? | 16:09 |
jeremiah | That has the latest status of git mirror | 16:09 |
* gunnarx viewing tool79 | 16:09 | |
toscalix | please all read Tool-79 https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/TOOL-79 | 16:10 |
toscalix | Jeremiah has added a comment | 16:10 |
toscalix | jeremiah: should I add this into the description? | 16:10 |
toscalix | the comment, I mean | 16:10 |
toscalix | the current one is out of date, I guess | 16:10 |
jeremiah | If we have consensus around the scope then yes. :-) | 16:10 |
toscalix | o/ | 16:11 |
jeremiah | What I think is important is that we're explicitly saying that issue tracking and other GENIVI services that already exist | 16:11 |
jeremiah | are out of scope | 16:11 |
toscalix | o/ | 16:11 |
jeremiah | This is so we do not have multiple locations where people are doing work. | 16:11 |
gunnarx | But it also deals with two issues? One is mirroring GENIVI s/w, another is full Yocto build mirror | 16:11 |
jeremiah | Yes, I added that since that was part of the original mirror scope, no? | 16:12 |
gunnarx | We never decided I think. | 16:12 |
gunnarx | I guess it's OK but I'm just concerned the big scope will delay the smaller one. | 16:12 |
jeremiah | I see having yocto sources and GENIVI sources on the same machine as a benefit | 16:12 |
gunnarx | Is Nick here? | 16:12 |
jeremiah | It should increase build speed and limit build errors | 16:13 |
gunnarx | It "should" yes :) | 16:13 |
jeremiah | at least fetching errors | 16:13 |
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gunnarx | Fair enough, let's assume it does. | 16:13 |
toscalix | we can go first for GENIVI mirroring and then...the rest | 16:13 |
jeremiah | Sure | 16:13 |
gunnarx | Good. I propose split it in two JIRA issues (can't believe I suggest that :-) | 16:14 |
gunnarx | Apparently steve_l had some fetching errors today from GitHub of all places. | 16:14 |
toscalix | I am interested in testing how much time we save | 16:14 |
gunnarx | Well who is "we" | 16:14 |
toscalix | let's remember that in a glovbal project, the concept of "mirroring at night" is tricky | 16:14 |
toscalix | GDP | 16:15 |
jeremiah | I think then we have a bit of consensus on the scope in any case? | 16:15 |
toscalix | yes from me | 16:15 |
jeremiah | Then we can take up the issue of what is the best fit | 16:15 |
gunnarx | toscalix, I'm not sure this is the time to open up the whole debate again. But if you mean the Go CD builds, they need to have reliable local caching of sources also. | 16:15 |
jeremiah | Do they? | 16:15 |
jeremiah | That sounds quite useful then | 16:15 |
gunnarx | I think they need that yes | 16:15 |
jeremiah | Perhaps we remove the idea of hosting upstream sources from the scope then if it is already in Go.CD | 16:15 |
gunnarx | As of now we are keeping DL_DIR shared on each agent | 16:16 |
toscalix | I hope "official agents" are also hosted in the new infra | 16:16 |
gunnarx | It's not precisely the same, I'm just saying we will save time in other ways. | 16:16 |
gunnarx | In terms of availability, there is nothing wrong with another mirror of course. | 16:16 |
jeremiah | Okay. | 16:16 |
gunnarx | I'd split the item though, one is more urgent. | 16:16 |
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toscalix | if anybody opposes, please speak up now | 16:17 |
jeremiah | Yes, the most urgent is getting git repos in place on the PDX machine | 16:17 |
gunnarx | pavelk, are you opposed to this ? :-D | 16:17 |
toscalix | gunnarx: we can do that as subtasks | 16:17 |
pavelk | gunnarx: sure | 16:17 |
gunnarx | pavelk just joined and needs to be part of the decision :) | 16:17 |
gunnarx | OK, set up the subtasks | 16:17 |
gunnarx | I think to actually progress this we need Nick's input. Where are we today, what's the time plan? | 16:18 |
jeremiah | Today Nick is planning the moving of git repos | 16:18 |
steve_l | manual git clones of poky are very slow as well so my probs may be local/network | 16:18 |
toscalix | Should we move on? | 16:18 |
jeremiah | The plan is for he and I to begin physically moving source code from LF to PDF | 16:18 |
jeremiah | s/PDF/PDX/ | 16:19 |
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toscalix | Next topic: http://www.roguewave.com/ next steps | 16:19 |
gunnarx | toscalix, Nick was on the WebEx call just now which we killed and moved here. For next time can you check that he can/will join IRC? | 16:19 |
gunnarx | Is Roguewave here? :) | 16:19 |
toscalix | I will | 16:19 |
toscalix | After the intro, I have to come back to them with the next steps | 16:20 |
gunnarx | Last week's "sales pitch" was totally unexpected for me, tbh | 16:20 |
jeremiah | Me too | 16:20 |
toscalix | So I would like to read your opinion on the tool and how to move forward | 16:20 |
gunnarx | have we had any discussion to manage expectations with them? | 16:20 |
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toscalix | gunnarx: no | 16:21 |
toscalix | well...yes | 16:21 |
gunnarx | I think they should sponsor usage for GENIVI code. That's what other typical companies do. | 16:21 |
gunnarx | In return they get exposure and contact with member companies | 16:21 |
jeremiah | Is their tool designed to replace coverity and/or Black Duck's scanning? | 16:21 |
gunnarx | Coverity | 16:21 |
gunnarx | I'm sure they would claim they are not the same of course ;-) | 16:21 |
philrob | why do we want to change coverity ? is it not available anymore ? | 16:22 |
toscalix | we do not | 16:22 |
gunnarx | not change but complement perhaps? | 16:22 |
philrob | do we still use coverity ? | 16:22 |
jeremiah | Ah, these folks make klocwork | 16:23 |
pavelk | philrob: coverity is free for foss projects | 16:23 |
toscalix | The idea of this action is to evaluate if the tool can be useful for GENIVI and/or Members | 16:23 |
toscalix | if it is...how to proceed | 16:23 |
gunnarx | philrob, only partly, not consistently | 16:23 |
gunnarx | toscalix, if you give me the contacts and if you want, I can draft up a suggestion for how they can engage | 16:23 |
gunnarx | (via email) | 16:23 |
philrob | gunnarx: thx for answering my question | 16:23 |
pavelk | last time they tried, klockwork was very cumbersome to use with GENIVI components | 16:23 |
gunnarx | how long was it ago pavelk? | 16:23 |
toscalix | gunnarx: fine with me | 16:24 |
gunnarx | I also had some vague feeling we have tried it before | 16:24 |
jeremiah | And I wonder how big the delta is between klockwork and coverity. | 16:24 |
toscalix | Action: Agustin will provide gunnarx contacts from Roguewave | 16:24 |
jeremiah | What do they do that coverity doesn't? | 16:24 |
pavelk | I never managed to get any kind of comparison between the tools | 16:24 |
toscalix | jeremiah: we can ask them by mail | 16:24 |
gunnarx | jeremiah, the more the merrier I'd say. | 16:24 |
jeremiah | :-) | 16:24 |
gunnarx | When it comes to code quality I am insatiable | 16:25 |
toscalix | jeremiah: can you provide me questions you have and I will ask them? | 16:25 |
toscalix | the same applies to all of you | 16:25 |
jeremiah | Well, I've asked everything I am qualified to ask. :-) | 16:25 |
RzR | clang also have a static analyzer | 16:26 |
jeremiah | The rest is up to the code quality fanatics | 16:26 |
toscalix | ok then | 16:26 |
pavelk | jeremiah: welcome to automotive :-) | 16:26 |
jeremiah | Yeah, we use clang's analyzer at work | 16:26 |
gunnarx | +1 RzR | 16:26 |
jeremiah | Engineers love clang tools | 16:26 |
gunnarx | and a code formatter.... :) | 16:26 |
jeremiah | pavelk: :-) | 16:26 |
philrob | what about cpplint ? | 16:26 |
gunnarx | jeremiah, and free-software geeks despise them ;-) | 16:27 |
toscalix | I have no other topics beyond the current tasks In progress or In Review state | 16:27 |
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jeremiah | gunnarx: which is why I have to shut up now. | 16:27 |
gunnarx | yes let's drop that line of discussion for now | 16:27 |
toscalix | gunnarx: sent me a review of his....pasting here | 16:27 |
gunnarx | what? | 16:27 |
toscalix | Tool-74 (point Go pipelines to to GitHub) : | 16:28 |
gunnarx | don't paste me bro | 16:28 |
toscalix | - No more to do for me right now. All pipelines that CAN be moved are | 16:28 |
toscalix | moved. I am now waiting only for the remaining projects to move their code | 16:28 |
toscalix | to GitHub before they can also be handled. | 16:28 |
toscalix | Therefore I reassigned it to Jeremiah to move that forward. | 16:28 |
toscalix | Tool-77 (Integrate Go and GitHub (pull-requests)): | 16:28 |
toscalix | - Done. I don't think I have more to do right now - I have therefore set the | 16:28 |
toscalix | issue to Review and assigned Tom as responsible for it. You mentioned this | 16:28 |
toscalix | morning there is some feedback from the GDP maintainers, so I suppose we | 16:28 |
jeremiah | Has anyone used cpplint? I think that actually might be relevant for GENIVI code since we use a lot of C++ | 16:28 |
toscalix | will have that discussion today. | 16:28 |
toscalix | tasks, only tasks | 16:28 |
toscalix | Gianpaolo and Helmut are absent so no report from them | 16:28 |
toscalix | Any question about gunnarx 's report? | 16:29 |
philrob | jeremiah: thanks for acknowledging my question on cpplint :-) | 16:29 |
toscalix | Yom and Pedro couldn't make it for the GDP call. We will report about Tool-77 next Wed | 16:29 |
jeremiah | philrob: Hopefully some experts can chime in here too. :) | 16:30 |
toscalix | ups philrob I am ignoring you today | 16:30 |
toscalix | sorry | 16:30 |
toscalix | not intentionally, promess | 16:30 |
philrob | (silent) | 16:30 |
toscalix | No questions... | 16:30 |
* jeremiah o_O | 16:30 | |
toscalix | 3 | 16:30 |
toscalix | 2 | 16:30 |
toscalix | 1 | 16:30 |
toscalix | Any other task you want to talk about before AOB ? | 16:31 |
gunnarx | Let me know when you want to discuss Tool-77 | 16:31 |
toscalix | I will | 16:31 |
* jeremiah goes to read 77 quickly | 16:31 | |
toscalix | 5 | 16:31 |
toscalix | 4 | 16:32 |
RzR | is upgrade to gcc6 planned ? | 16:32 |
jeremiah | Oj | 16:32 |
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gunnarx | I doubt it :) | 16:32 |
toscalix | RzR: we are a direvative so..... | 16:32 |
jeremiah | Won't that come when poky decides to update? | 16:32 |
toscalix | we=GDP | 16:32 |
jeremiah | GDP=poky + GENIVI source code | 16:33 |
toscalix | AOB | 16:33 |
gunnarx | "is upgrade to clang planned" ? FTFY | 16:33 |
toscalix | next meeting through webex | 16:33 |
gunnarx | cool, webex that proprietary designer drug we can't live without.... | 16:34 |
jeremiah | IRC is dying, let's move to slack | 16:34 |
gunnarx | as in the Linux distro? | 16:34 |
jeremiah | lol | 16:34 |
toscalix | jeremiah: github, slack... we will look like web developers | 16:35 |
jeremiah | :-) | 16:35 |
gunnarx | God help us | 16:35 |
toscalix | IRC is more fun than webex | 16:35 |
toscalix | ok, no AOB? | 16:35 |
toscalix | 5 | 16:36 |
gunnarx | I'm gonna be a web developer some day. Wear shorts and hawaiian shirt to work. | 16:36 |
toscalix | 4 | 16:36 |
toscalix | 3 | 16:36 |
toscalix | 2 | 16:36 |
philrob | this is what I wear in LR | 16:36 |
toscalix | 1 | 16:36 |
toscalix | == GENIVI Tools Team Meeting Ends == | 16:36 |
jeremiah | The good thing about web development is that you can do it naked | 16:36 |
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gunnarx | philrob, :) | 16:36 |
jbocklage2 | o.O | 16:37 |
gunnarx | Pouring rain outside. Time to walk to the car. :-/ | 16:37 |
* steve_l rubs vigoursely with | 16:37 | |
jeremiah | Super nice here. | 16:37 |
* steve_l the mid soap | 16:38 | |
* steve_l *mind* jezuss | 16:38 | |
jeremiah | lol | 16:38 |
* gunnarx is looking up "vigoursely" on merriam-webster | 16:38 | |
* steve_l wonders if he's having a stoke | 16:38 | |
jeremiah | I thought you mean "rubs vigourously with mild soap." | 16:39 |
gunnarx | "Mind Jesus" is my Guru too, what a coincidence. | 16:39 |
* steve_l lol stroke | 16:39 | |
jeremiah | Which is okay too | 16:39 |
jeremiah | Either that or your keyboard is sticky | 16:39 |
gunnarx | stokey | 16:39 |
gunnarx | Off to the rain. I am stoked. | 16:39 |
steve_l | So you should be | 16:40 |
jeremiah | I'd say "stay dry" but that's impossible in Gothenburg | 16:40 |
gunnarx | Shouldn't be in June, but I guess it's global warming | 16:40 |
steve_l | I just found a colleague is downling 7Gbs of Android crap, I mean source. So I suspect that was the cause of the access issues I reported on genivi-projects | 16:41 |
jeremiah | We he using you're only internet connection? | 16:42 |
jeremiah | s/you're/your/ | 16:42 |
steve_l | From the build server yes. It seems the QoS could do with some attention! | 16:44 |
gunnarx | ...damned Android hooligans | 16:55 |
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jeremiah | ohai ncontino_! | 16:57 |
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jeremiah | lol | 16:57 |
steve_l | I know. If I want Android in my car I can tape a tablet to the dash ;) | 16:59 |
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