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leon-anavi | morning | 08:34 |
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fredcadete | good morning | 08:38 |
* paulsherwood grumbles about automotive folks wanting to create 'a simple proprietary flat file structure' | 08:40 | |
jobol | morning | 08:52 |
chbae | hi | 08:54 |
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toscalix | hi | 09:01 |
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zskdan | hello | 09:27 |
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CTtpollard | morning | 09:40 |
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rjek | paulsherwood: wat | 09:57 |
paulsherwood | ? | 09:59 |
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rjek | paulsherwood: proprietary flat file structures | 10:01 |
paulsherwood | indeed | 10:02 |
rjek | As if there aren't a billion others | 10:03 |
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jeremiah | Hello earthlings and assorted aliens! | 12:24 |
CTtpollard | :) | 12:24 |
leon-anavi | I booted GDP on rpi2 using branch jethro of meta-raspberrypi and the github fork of meta-genivi-demo. Weston was started but the screen stuck on GENIVI logo. | 12:24 |
jeremiah | CTtpollard: Just the humanoid I was hoping to speak to. :D | 12:25 |
leon-anavi | Obviously there are some patches in master branch of meta-raspberrypi which prevent Weston from running on rpi2 with GDP. | 12:25 |
jeremiah | CTtpollard: I wonder about the extent of the Android Auto integration into the GDP | 12:25 |
jeremiah | I've seen the git repo in GENIVI's gits that shows work on layers has been done | 12:25 |
jeremiah | But I wonder if that has been brought into the GDP "officially"? | 12:26 |
CTtpollard | jeremiah: yeh Maxim submitted this branch http://git.projects.genivi.org/?p=genivi-demo-platform.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/koelsch-aa I can't personally test it without the AA libs from google | 12:26 |
jeremiah | CTtpollard: Right, of course, that would be a blocker not having the Google blobs. | 12:26 |
jeremiah | Okay then, now I know where we are and I'll mention that in the OSS meeting I have to drop into now. :-) Thanks! | 12:27 |
CTtpollard | np jeremiah | 12:28 |
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CTtpollard | gunnarx: commented on the jira ticket | 12:52 |
gunnarx | ok | 12:52 |
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rjek | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35841571 | 13:03 |
rjek | Top of the list of tips is "Ensuring vehicle software is up-to-date" | 13:03 |
radiofree | heh | 13:06 |
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gunnarx | Drivers should be careful when making modifications to vehicle software :) | 13:20 |
gunnarx | or was that meant only for the manufacturers... | 13:21 |
gunnarx | Therein lies a key question for the industry, it seems | 13:29 |
rjek | :) | 13:30 |
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CTtpollard | leon-anavi: looks like the pipeline is having issues with some parallel make in qtmultimedia | 15:41 |
CTtpollard | which is really annoying because I can't reproduce it! | 15:41 |
leon-anavi | CTtpollard, is it some kind of a race condition? May be some dependencies are not built on time. | 15:42 |
leon-anavi | Could you please share the log of the fail? | 15:43 |
CTtpollard | we're using qt5.4.2 and it looks like it should have been fixed there | 15:43 |
CTtpollard | it has been reported here http://www.qtcentre.org/threads/63713-Random-QtMultmedia-build-issues-with-QtWebkit5-parallel-builds | 15:43 |
leon-anavi | CTtpollard, what are the configurations for PARALLEL_MAKE and BB_NUMBER_THREADS when the build is failing? | 15:44 |
CTtpollard | the pipine line conf is set to 2 and j2 | 15:45 |
leon-anavi | ok, I expected more :) | 15:48 |
leon-anavi | anyway it is strange that it cannot be reproduced. | 15:48 |
CTtpollard | looks like there was a patch proposed to it but not merged https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/112214/1 | 15:50 |
CTtpollard | checking in the work dir, it's definitely qtmultimedia 5.4.2 | 15:50 |
CTtpollard | I could lower the parallel make value, but would rather not globally | 15:54 |
CTtpollard | but.... other pipelines are not having the same issue, with the same recipe | 15:55 |
* CTtpollard sighs at friday | 15:55 | |
leon-anavi | I didn't notice any errors while testing the build. I used 8/j8 and 12/j12 on my dev machines. | 15:56 |
CTtpollard | I'm using 4 myself locally, and I don't see the issue :) | 15:57 |
leon-anavi | CTtpollard, I have a success story to share :) GDP on Raspberry Pi 3 | 15:57 |
CTtpollard | leon-anavi: that's awesome! | 15:59 |
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rjek | In 32 or 64 bit mode? :) | 16:01 |
JEEB | 64bit is kind of still meh on the rpi3 at this point, no? | 16:02 |
JEEB | as in, requires kernel work | 16:02 |
rjek | I thought there was a kernel already, but Raspbian han't rebuilt all the things for ARMv8 yet because it's a lot of faff and storage | 16:03 |
leon-anavi | don't get too excited :) I have just booted it. Weston is running. | 16:04 |
JEEB | I wonder mpv would work with the rpi opengl stuff under wayland (weston) | 16:04 |
leon-anavi | I see GENIVI background and that's all. I expected to see a few apps. Wondering whether this is what I should see. | 16:04 |
leon-anavi | rjek, Linux raspberrypi3 4.1.0 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Mar 18 17:33:25 EET 2016 armv7l GNU/Linux | 16:05 |
JEEB | rjek: last I saw it was still heavily in-progress and the rpi foundation is content with armv7 binaries for the rpi3 all-over | 16:05 |
leon-anavi | https://twitter.com/leonanavi/status/710859062162931712 | 16:06 |
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rjek | Hmm, the RPi3 very much is not ARMv7 | 16:07 |
rjek | It is ARMv8; not all ARMv7 code can run on it | 16:08 |
JEEB | aye | 16:10 |
leon-anavi | yes, sure it is ARMv8 | 16:12 |
leon-anavi | but there some difficulties with meta-raspberrypi :) | 16:14 |
leon-anavi | Raspberry Pi 3 configuration are in branch master. The current efforts for porting GDP to rpi2 are based on branch jethro. | 16:15 |
leon-anavi | Switching to branch master leads to issues with Weston due to new patches for it and userland. These patches have been applied recently only in the master branch of meta-raspberrypi | 16:16 |
rjek | I think the only incompatibility anybody will ever likely notice is that ARMv8 lacks the SWP instruction, regardless of which length mode you run it in | 16:16 |
leon-anavi | so what I did was to use an older commit from branch master of meta-raspberrypi. Furthermore the image is with Linux kernel 4.1. | 16:17 |
leon-anavi | long story short there is plenty of work on this :) I just had a few spare cycles and decided to give it a try. | 16:17 |
leon-anavi | I will post details in JIRA and I will switch back to tasks with higher priority. | 16:18 |
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CTtpollard | leon-anavi: I've updated the pipeline, lets see if the race goes away | 16:43 |
leon-anavi | ok | 16:43 |
leon-anavi | I posted details about my rpi2/rpi3 experiments in JIRA: https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/browse/GDP-82 | 16:44 |
CTtpollard | heh even a photo! | 16:45 |
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* rjek needs to get his finger out and replace the RPi1 that current drives his pub's beer display board with the RPi3 he bought on release day | 16:47 | |
leon-anavi | rjek, nice plan | 16:53 |
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gunnarx | Everyone, just pretend I tweeted the same pictures as leon-anavi | 17:08 |
gunnarx | Except the booting :) | 17:09 |
gunnarx | so I don't have to :) | 17:09 |
CTtpollard | I can be bribed | 17:10 |
CTtpollard | gunnarx: I thought you planned to use it as a media player in your car? :P | 17:13 |
rjek | If it can play BBC Radio 4 at me, it is a feature complete entertainment system | 17:14 |
gunnarx | yah we'll see. If it's doing audio only it's kind of overkill as Pi 1 should suffice. But the Pi3 has nice wireless interfaces. | 17:15 |
CTtpollard | and 3 is the magic number of course | 17:15 |
rjek | The analogue output on the Pi is execrable. | 17:16 |
rjek | (It uses one of the SoC's PWMs and a capacitor) | 17:16 |
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rjek | Well two of each because it's stereo | 17:16 |
gunnarx | oh | 17:17 |
gunnarx | that I do not want | 17:17 |
rjek | There are a handful of decent audio output "hats" for the Pi though that use the I2S on the expansion header | 17:18 |
gunnarx | I think I have a decent USB "audio card", guess that's a way to go. | 17:18 |
* gunnarx looks up execrable | 17:19 | |
CTtpollard | out of shields, hats and capes I think hats is my favourite | 17:19 |
rjek | Or even the cheapest USB audio device you can find; it'll be better than the built-in analogue | 17:19 |
rjek | CTtpollard: What about IO Wimple? | 17:19 |
gunnarx | deserving to be execrated. yeah it sounds pretty terrible | 17:20 |
rjek | https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define+execrable | 17:20 |
CTtpollard | gunnarx: get used to words like that from rjek | 17:20 |
gunnarx | CTtpollard, no, radiation shields. They're the best. | 17:20 |
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rjek | What's wrong with execrable? It's a totally cromulent word. | 17:21 |
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gunnarx | it obnubilates the actual meaning | 17:22 |
gunnarx | that's what's wrong with it | 17:23 |
rjek | obfuscation was not my intention | 17:24 |
rjek | But "execrable" is a stronger word that "bad" | 17:25 |
rjek | But it is many more letters, I admit | 17:25 |
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gunnarx | oops, playtime is over. or starting, whichever way you look at it I'm afk | 17:31 |
paulsherwood | _jlrmagnus: rofl at http://i.imgur.com/7M4n8o0.jpg | 17:34 |
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CTtpollard | haha! | 17:40 |
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_jlrmagnus | Thank you, paulsherwood. | 18:31 |
_jlrmagnus | That image has been in my mind during the last days' VSS discussion. | 18:32 |
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BMWMPower | hi all | 20:39 |
BMWMPower | i have some issues with a fuel pressure drop on my S1000RR | 20:40 |
BMWMPower | nobody? | 20:49 |
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