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| CTtpollard | good morning | 08:11 |
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| chbae | Hi | 08:13 |
| * paulsherwood waves from somewhere with no cellular coverage | 08:27 | |
| CTtpollard | well, it's only 2016 | 08:27 |
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| leon-anavi | morning | 08:37 |
| CTtpollard | the qemu-ci pipeline has failed, I'm pretty sure it's down to sstate cache :/ | 08:42 |
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| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, this is concerning. My patches are the latest in this branch. | 08:51 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: yes I don't think it's a problem with your patch, more of how yocto is handling the cache | 08:53 |
| leon-anavi | I guess so because I have tested both patches and they have been already part of their upstream projects. | 08:54 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: yes, and the package that is failing is not related to those layers | 08:54 |
| leon-anavi | cool :) | 08:54 |
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| CTtpollard | I need to test a qemu patch locally anyway, so I will take yours at the same time | 08:58 |
| leon-anavi | ok | 09:02 |
| CTtpollard | chbae: I'm trying your meta-genivi restructure patch with the qemu branch | 09:24 |
| CTtpollard | chbae: other thank tweaking bblayers.conf to look in meta-genivi-demo/meta-genivi-demo all is well so far | 09:28 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: If I see gunnarx around today I'll ask him to clean the build env on the pipeline | 09:36 |
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| leon-anavi | ok | 09:47 |
| paulsherwood | what is sstate cache? | 09:49 |
| CTtpollard | I've yet to find a detailed explanation of it | 09:53 |
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| toscalix | tools team meeting in 3 min. | 09:57 |
| gmacario | Hi there! | 09:58 |
| toscalix | === GENIVI Tools Team Weekly Meeting === | 10:00 |
| toscalix | Agenda: | 10:00 |
| toscalix | * After the proposal for the Board, we will go back to normal business. We will start today with a status update of the current goals/tasks. | 10:00 |
| toscalix | Link to kanban: https://at.projects.genivi.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=8&selectedIssue=TOOL-54 | 10:00 |
| toscalix | Participants: please raise "your voice" | 10:00 |
| * toscalix here | 10:00 | |
| toscalix | gmacario: here | 10:01 |
| gmacario | Good to me | 10:01 |
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| toscalix | hummm.... I wonder if people is at the webex meeting | 10:02 |
| toscalix | checking | 10:02 |
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| toscalix | nop | 10:03 |
| toscalix | let's start then | 10:03 |
| toscalix | gmacario: you have 2 tasks in review state | 10:03 |
| toscalix | should you review them or somebody else? | 10:03 |
| toscalix | Tool-61 and TOLL-21 | 10:04 |
| toscalix | TOOL-21 | 10:04 |
| gmacario | moment | 10:04 |
| gmacario | I have asked Gunnar, Pedro and the other go.genivi.org maintainers to have a look | 10:05 |
| gmacario | but so far haven't heard anything back | 10:05 |
| gmacario | This is TOOL-21 | 10:05 |
| gmacario | Just read Gunnar comments here | 10:05 |
| toscalix | I will ping pedroalvarez about it so he provides opinion. Also CTtpollard and jonathanmaw might have one | 10:06 |
| CTtpollard | I'm aware of the ticket | 10:07 |
| gmacario | Not easy to figure out JIRA username when commented a ticket ;-( | 10:07 |
| toscalix | so gmacario can I move the ticket back to In progress until more people provide input, before moving it to review by the reporter? | 10:08 |
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| gmacario | OK | 10:08 |
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| klausbirken | Hi all, sorry to be late | 10:08 |
| toscalix | hi klausbirken | 10:08 |
| gmacario | For TOOL-61 I released v0.01 https://github.com/gmacario/easy-genivigo | 10:08 |
| toscalix | we are going over the tasks | 10:08 |
| toscalix | so close it? | 10:09 |
| gmacario | but I cannot progress more as I have no admin rights on go.genivi.org to compare with | 10:09 |
| gmacario | I would rather reassign to someone with admin rights on go.genivi.org to verify | 10:09 |
| toscalix | then I would assign the ticket to gunnar with the request | 10:09 |
| gmacario | OK for me if gunnar agrees of course | 10:10 |
| toscalix | since he is not here, let's skip TOOL-43 | 10:10 |
| toscalix | and move on to In progress tasks | 10:11 |
| toscalix | TOOL-9 is on my plate, slow progress | 10:11 |
| gmacario | regarding the other tickets I have in progress I commented today their status | 10:11 |
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| toscalix | do you need something from me in any of them? | 10:11 |
| toscalix | or from klaus? | 10:11 |
| gunnarx | Oh, no Webex today? | 10:12 |
| toscalix | not today. The idea is to provide status and ask for help if there are blockers | 10:13 |
| gunnarx | ok | 10:13 |
| toscalix | gunnarx: now that you are here, tool-21 is waiting for more input | 10:14 |
| gunnarx | I see gmacario intends to close an issue I opened :) | 10:14 |
| toscalix | we discussed earlier | 10:14 |
| gunnarx | I just addedd some :) | 10:14 |
| toscalix | you have tool-43 in review state | 10:14 |
| toscalix | any comment on that one? | 10:14 |
| gunnarx | checking | 10:15 |
| gunnarx | "At this point i'm not seeing any concern with what we have set up but GDP maintainers can of course look over the pipelines and adjust guest visibility if needed. (N.B. Pedro is go.genivi.org admin)" | 10:15 |
| toscalix | feel free top close it then | 10:15 |
| gunnarx | I think we need a dedicated discussion on improving pipelines with GDP maintainers | 10:15 |
| toscalix | gunnarx: agree | 10:15 |
| toscalix | AMM? | 10:16 |
| toscalix | or earlier? | 10:16 |
| toscalix | it could be part of our session at AMM? | 10:16 |
| gunnarx | Any volunteers to hack (Java) on an improved login frontend? | 10:16 |
| gunnarx | :) | 10:16 |
| paulsherwood | Pedro is go.genivi.org admin? when/how did that happen? :) | 10:16 |
| gunnarx | When we started up the site | 10:16 |
| gunnarx | I've been asking if codethink want to provide an alternative person maybe | 10:17 |
| paulsherwood | iirc you were seeking 3 companies to contribute originally.... | 10:17 |
| paulsherwood | is it only codethink, now? | 10:17 |
| gunnarx | admin means co-admin here. I'm still main admin now | 10:17 |
| gunnarx | Whether from CT or other, we need a fall-back if main admin is unavailable. | 10:17 |
| paulsherwood | ack. | 10:17 |
| gunnarx | that's all. | 10:18 |
| toscalix | so let's move on then | 10:18 |
| gunnarx | paulsherwood, shall I remove Pedro altogether or keep for the moment | 10:19 |
| paulsherwood | up to him, i think | 10:19 |
| toscalix | keep it since once in awhile we need clean up | 10:19 |
| toscalix | in our pipeline | 10:19 |
| toscalix | since we are using it | 10:19 |
| gunnarx | ok | 10:19 |
| toscalix | is a practical thing for us | 10:19 |
| toscalix | In progress tasks | 10:20 |
| gunnarx | Tool-43 If no volunteers to improve login page, are we OK with the current status? | 10:20 |
| gunnarx | I think others should weigh in on the review. | 10:20 |
| toscalix | no volunteers, no action | 10:20 |
| toscalix | close task. It can be re-opened if somebodu shows up | 10:21 |
| gunnarx | ok | 10:21 |
| toscalix | gmacario: updated his tasks | 10:21 |
| toscalix | any question to him about any of the tasks currently assigned to him? | 10:21 |
| gunnarx | need to filter the tasks then, hold on | 10:23 |
| toscalix | I like the fack that tool-66 uses GDP-92 as example | 10:23 |
| gunnarx | tbh I've not had time to check the latest comments on those tasks | 10:23 |
| toscalix | Tool-54: PMO requested an additional bit of work | 10:24 |
| toscalix | I will work on it this week. | 10:24 |
| gmacario | "We need an abstract to attract people to the session" :-) | 10:24 |
| toscalix | gmacario: would you be ok to review it? | 10:24 |
| gunnarx | Tool-66 would be nice but Go is a bit different than Jenkins here. Probably need a real design session on this. | 10:24 |
| toscalix | once I finish it? | 10:24 |
| gmacario | Well I feel already attracted :P | 10:24 |
| gmacario | Anyway yes sure | 10:24 |
| toscalix | gmacario: thanks | 10:25 |
| gunnarx | It also plays into how agents are provisioned, and that depends on the companies offering them. How secure they need them etc. Is it acceptable for agents to execute any container defined by external party? and so on. not as easy as it might seem | 10:25 |
| gunnarx | ^^ Tool 66 | 10:26 |
| gunnarx | We move fast here, hard to keep up. OK checking tool 54 | 10:26 |
| toscalix | gmacario: any comment about what gunnarx just mentioned related to TOOL-66? | 10:27 |
| gmacario | I will take this offline and comment on TOOL-66, anyway I have limited knowledge on Go.CD to comment | 10:27 |
| gunnarx | Tool-54, no problem I can support writing abstract (and some slide content) for go.cd and maybe git | 10:27 |
| toscalix | gmacario: thanks | 10:28 |
| toscalix | gunnarx: thanks | 10:28 |
| toscalix | once we finish the description, the next step is to start with the slides | 10:28 |
| toscalix | any other In progress task worth commenting here? | 10:29 |
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| gunnarx | checking... | 10:30 |
| gunnarx | no I don't have more comments. but that's probably due to poor preparation | 10:31 |
| toscalix | Let's move on to the ToDo list | 10:31 |
| gunnarx | I need to find time to go through all. And it won't be today it looks like. | 10:31 |
| toscalix | concentrate on one then that calls your attention | 10:31 |
| toscalix | I have dig a little more into JIRA/Confluence and I haven't found a way to make kanban and dashboards public. I just added a ping to Joel about this | 10:32 |
| toscalix | TOOL-42 | 10:32 |
| gunnarx | great | 10:32 |
| gunnarx | sorry, not great | 10:32 |
| gunnarx | I think the consensus is that publishing Kanban is not supported by Atlassian | 10:33 |
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| toscalix | TOOL-14: I wonder if with the recommendations this task should be alive or not | 10:33 |
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| toscalix | gunnarx: ah | 10:33 |
| gunnarx | I could imagine some digging into possibility of some macro/query from Confluence to JIRA | 10:33 |
| toscalix | gunnarx: I thought about it too# | 10:34 |
| gunnarx | I'm thinking with appropriate queries, Confluence might display at least a kind of dashboard, maybe not exactly the same format | 10:34 |
| gunnarx | And if all else fails, script all the things! (tm) ;-) | 10:34 |
| klausbirken1 | Sorry, we have network problems here, I keep getting disconnected. | 10:35 |
| toscalix | gunnarx: gmacario: what do you think about TOOL-14 | 10:36 |
| paulsherwood | toscalix: i did TOOL-33, but IIRC it was decided at PMO to drop it... now it's todo again? | 10:36 |
| toscalix | did the recommendation cover this already | 10:36 |
| gmacario | Is there anything else beyond integrating Gerrit with go.genivi.org? | 10:36 |
| toscalix | paulsherwood: no. I will close it then | 10:36 |
| paulsherwood | https://github.com/devcurmudgeon/compare-manifests | 10:36 |
| gmacario | I mean, putting this into production | 10:37 |
| gmacario | ^^ TOOL-14 | 10:37 |
| gunnarx | Tool-14 needs a definition of done. There are comments about integrating build (go.cd) with review (gerrit/pull-requests). If we want to do that it is a project in and of itself. | 10:37 |
| gunnarx | I think that's still a valid direction to pursue | 10:38 |
| gunnarx | i.e. build tool reporting if a change request builds successfully. but it's not the same feature as "code review" performed by humans. | 10:38 |
| gunnarx | which purpose does Tool-14 have, or is it both? I would consider breaking it down to managable pieces. | 10:39 |
| toscalix | The description was about chossing and recommending a code review tool compatible with go.cd | 10:39 |
| toscalix | We did, right? | 10:39 |
| toscalix | s/chossing/choosing | 10:40 |
| gmacario | OK so shall we track it actual IMPLEMENTATION somewhere else? | 10:40 |
| toscalix | gmacario: we need first a decision | 10:40 |
| gunnarx | Yes but I think the BoD gave a general direction to go in. You saw my email? | 10:40 |
| gmacario | Decision from whom? | 10:40 |
| toscalix | so I would open a new ticket once the decision is taken | 10:41 |
| gmacario | The ticket should exists already: implement whatever decision | 10:41 |
| toscalix | depending on the strategy decision about externalising or not some services | 10:41 |
| toscalix | we will implement a tool or another | 10:41 |
| gmacario | To me it is better to state we need this implemented, by whom it is not currently decided yet so the ticket is unassigned | 10:42 |
| gmacario | but will block something else I am afraid | 10:42 |
| toscalix | gmacario: I will open a new ticket for the implementation then and close this one | 10:42 |
| gmacario | +1 | 10:42 |
| toscalix | gunnarx: ? | 10:42 |
| toscalix | klausbirken1: ? | 10:43 |
| gunnarx | trying to keep up... | 10:43 |
| klausbirken1 | fine for me | 10:43 |
| toscalix | that is my input so far on tasks | 10:44 |
| gunnarx | Sometimes another approach might be to comment, what is the concrete next step. And/or add new sub-items. | 10:44 |
| toscalix | do you have any other comment on tasks that are in the ToDo or Analysis columns? | 10:44 |
| gunnarx | I feel we often close and reopen new tickets on stuff that is very related... | 10:44 |
| toscalix | gunnarx: I will relate the new ticket with this one. | 10:45 |
| toscalix | thorugh the Relate link section | 10:45 |
| toscalix | but otherwise I would have to rearrange the title and description and then old comments might get out of context | 10:46 |
| gunnarx | I understand, but it still means a whole lot of clicking around. On this ticket very important info from Pedro that relates to actual implementation. I think we need to work together on the quality of our tickets and bring them to conclusion | 10:46 |
| gmacario | Re: TOOL-62 is it done now right? | 10:46 |
| gunnarx | Yes I would agree. A recommendation was done. | 10:46 |
| toscalix | yes | 10:46 |
| gmacario | And the BoD gave their input, right? | 10:47 |
| gmacario | Is that tracked somewhere? | 10:47 |
| toscalix | commenting on tool-64, closing it so tool-62 can also be closed | 10:47 |
| gunnarx | Let's add it as comment for tracking. Shall I do it? | 10:47 |
| toscalix | go ahead please | 10:48 |
| toscalix | I just commented Tool-64 | 10:49 |
| toscalix | so all subtasks are done now | 10:49 |
| gunnarx | ok, I will comment tool 62 with more background | 10:50 |
| gunnarx | and close it | 10:50 |
| toscalix | ok | 10:51 |
| toscalix | tool-56 was left behind. Updated | 10:52 |
| toscalix | I have nothing more to add | 10:52 |
| gmacario | Me neither | 10:53 |
| toscalix | klausbirken1: gunnarx ? | 10:53 |
| gunnarx | no | 10:53 |
| gunnarx | updating Tool-62 now | 10:53 |
| toscalix | 5 | 10:53 |
| toscalix | 4 | 10:54 |
| gunnarx | I think there's work to do there, if I get any time I'll prepare a number of bullet points of what I think needs to happen to make it work | 10:54 |
| toscalix | 3 | 10:54 |
| klausbirken1 | Some of the tool issues are mine, I will try to clean up until next week. | 10:54 |
| toscalix | 2 | 10:54 |
| toscalix | 5 | 10:54 |
| toscalix | 4 | 10:54 |
| toscalix | 3 | 10:54 |
| toscalix | 2 | 10:54 |
| toscalix | 1 | 10:54 |
| toscalix | === GENIVI Tool Team meeting ends === | 10:54 |
| gmacario | Bye! | 10:54 |
| klausbirken1 | bye! | 10:54 |
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| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: I've cleaned the qemu-ci pipeline, starting it off again | 10:59 |
| CTtpollard | chbae: are you around? | 11:18 |
| toscalix | chbae: just sent you a mail. I need some basic info from you | 11:22 |
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| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, ok, I was away from the keyboard for a while. How is your build going on? Any issues so far? | 12:03 |
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| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: the pipeline is here http://go.genivi.org/go/tab/build/detail/GDP-Yocto-QEMU_x86-64-qemu-ci/18/build/1/init_and_bitbake | 12:18 |
| leon-anavi | ok, logged in as guest. Looking at the logs. | 12:19 |
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| chbae_ | CTtpollard: Thanks. I’m at home now. | 12:24 |
| chbae_ | toscalix: I mail you. :) | 12:25 |
| CTtpollard | I've seen, congratulations :) | 12:25 |
| chbae_ | CTtpollard: Thanks. Please let me know your maintenance knowhow :) | 12:25 |
| chbae_ | And I’ll create my final patches for rpi2 and send to mailing list. | 12:26 |
| CTtpollard | chbae_: we have our GDP call today, but I'm guessing the time is too late for you? | 12:26 |
| chbae_ | CTtpollard: it’s 2 AM here but I may join. | 12:27 |
| CTtpollard | chbae_: I'd sleep! | 12:28 |
| chbae_ | :) | 12:28 |
| chbae_ | I sent | 12:41 |
| leon-anavi | chbae_, I have just launched a local build for rpi2 using your github repo. | 12:42 |
| leon-anavi | with the master branch of meta-raspberrypi | 12:43 |
| chbae_ | leon-anavi: I used jethro branch of meta-raspberrypi. | 12:43 |
| chbae_ | leon-anavi: Is it working? | 12:43 |
| leon-anavi | Yes, I saw your notes about Jethro. | 12:43 |
| leon-anavi | I decided the use master because there are several new patches (including my patches for raspberry pi sense hat ;) ) | 12:44 |
| chbae_ | leon-anavi: yes :) | 12:44 |
| leon-anavi | I have rpi3, which btw I still have not turned on but eventually I might give it a try | 12:44 |
| chbae_ | leon-anavi: I’ll also try for rpi3 but i don’t have rpi3 now. | 12:45 |
| leon-anavi | chbae_, ok. rpi3 machine has been recently added to meta-raspberrypi | 12:47 |
| chbae_ | leon-anavi: yes. I see. I have two choices between using master branch and adding machine patch on jethro branch. | 12:48 |
| leon-anavi | chbae_, master is pretty similar to Jethro. | 12:48 |
| leon-anavi | I hope the build will be fine using it. | 12:49 |
| chbae_ | leon-anavi: ok. cool. | 12:50 |
| chbae_ | leon-anavi: Did you run on rpi2? | 12:54 |
| leon-anavi | chbae_, I am building GDP for rpi2 right now using your github repo. | 12:56 |
| leon-anavi | Before that I had booted GDP on rpi2 using Amir's repositories. | 12:57 |
| chbae_ | leon-anavi: ok. | 12:57 |
| CTtpollard | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-4.6-RPi-Faster-3D | 12:59 |
| pedroalvarez | CTtpollard: looking forward to integrate that in baserock :) | 13:00 |
| radiofree | interesting | 13:01 |
| radiofree | http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Etnaviv-DRM-Linux-4.6 as well | 13:01 |
| * radiofree wonders how usable etnaviv is | 13:01 | |
| radiofree | so what would that be... nvidia, freescale, rpi and minnowboard all running with mesa? | 13:02 |
| chbae_ | CTtpollard: good. I’ll try it later. | 13:04 |
| chbae_ | baserock supports rpi2? | 13:04 |
| pedroalvarez | chbae_: I managed to get GDP runninng on rpi2 a year ago, but I never managed finish the work to merge the patches | 13:05 |
| chbae_ | pedroalvarez: Ah ok. Now I’ll manage GDP with yocto on rpi2. | 13:10 |
| pedroalvarez | sounds good :) | 13:10 |
| CTtpollard | chbae_: have you ever though about having meta-raspberrypi-gdp as its own 'layer' that could be committed in the raspberrypi branch of genivi-demo-platform? | 13:12 |
| pedroalvarez | CTtpollard: what would that layer include? | 13:13 |
| CTtpollard | pedroalvarez: that specific changes that chbae_ wants to carry, but instead of putting them in a sub dir of meta-genivi-demo | 13:14 |
| chbae_ | CTtpollard: yes. | 13:14 |
| pedroalvarez | chbae_: btw, not a year ago, around 5 months ago.. sorry | 13:14 |
| chbae_ | pedroalvarez: NP :) | 13:14 |
| CTtpollard | well, it could be a 'layer' commited to the raspberrypi branch of gdp, or a separate repo which the branch could bring in as a submodule | 13:17 |
| chbae_ | CTtpollard: what’s your suggestion? | 13:19 |
| CTtpollard | both are suggestions, as alternatives to the meta-genivi-demo restructure | 13:20 |
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| CTtpollard | note that doesn't mean I'm against the restructure in general | 13:24 |
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| chbae_ | CTtpollard: ok. | 13:27 |
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| CTtpollard | having all commits in a single repo would be easier to maintain though | 13:34 |
| chbae_ | CTtpollard: I agree. | 13:43 |
| CTtpollard | i'd try having the meta-raspberrypi-gdp directory directly commited to the raspi branch of gdp then as an alternative | 13:47 |
| CTtpollard | qemu has built fine with the restructure commit | 13:52 |
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| leon-anavi | chbae, you are using weston 1.6 for rpi2, right? | 13:55 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: 1.9 | 13:56 |
| leon-anavi | hm... | 13:57 |
| CTtpollard | in the latest patchset anyway | 13:57 |
| leon-anavi | I noticed PREFERRED_VERSION_weston = "1.6.0" in https://github.com/locust2001/meta-genivi-demo#miscellaneous | 13:58 |
| leon-anavi | ok, so the will the build complete fine if I skip the line for preferred weston version in local.conf? | 13:59 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: it says 1.9 in the link you sent. Poky includes 1.6.0, but we're including 1.9 in meta-genivi-demo | 14:00 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, weird... after refresh of the web page the instructions changed. It seems that a commit has been pushed in the mean time :) | 14:02 |
| CTtpollard | the 1.9 recipe in meta-genivi-demo has raspi specific flags etc so will need to build that | 14:02 |
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| chbae_ | leon-anavi: I’m using rasp9-rc1 branch and please see https://github.com/locust2001/genivi-demo-platform/blob/rasp9-rc1/gdp-src-build/conf/local.conf | 14:24 |
| leon-anavi | thanks | 14:27 |
| chbae_ | CTtpollard: i'd try having the meta-raspberrypi-gdp directory directly commited to the raspi branch of gdp then as an alternative -> I don’t prefer the method. | 14:27 |
| chbae_ | leon-anavi: :) | 14:28 |
| chbae_ | CTtpollard: I’ll think about it and let’s discuss with reviewers. | 14:28 |
| CTtpollard | chbae_@ sure | 14:29 |
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| CTtpollard | chbae_: when the patches are merged, we will have to get a pipeline set up on the go.genivi server :) | 15:05 |
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| CTtpollard | ^ chbae | 15:10 |
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| leon-anavi | my build of GDP for rpi2 using the master branch failed. | 16:49 |
| leon-anavi | master branch of meta-raspberrypi | 16:49 |
| leon-anavi | https://gist.github.com/leon-anavi/13e2b84710b8dc0dacbc | 16:50 |
| leon-anavi | there is an issue related to kernel 4.1 and the device tree for rpi3 | 16:51 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: can you post this on the jira ticket for chbae? | 16:55 |
| leon-anavi | CTtpollard, yes, but let me dig it for a while first | 16:56 |
| CTtpollard | leon-anavi: no worries | 16:56 |
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| toscalix | chbae: congrats :-) | 17:06 |
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| chbae_ | CTtpollard: Oops. I slept and didn’t join the meeting. :( | 20:03 |
| chbae_ | toscalix: thanks. | 20:04 |
| chbae_ | CTtpollard: Could you let me know today’s meeting result about layer restructuring? | 20:18 |
| chbae_ | CTtpollard: And let’s talk about how to manage the repo. | 20:20 |
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| jobol | waltminer, hi, Is the access number 324926029? | 22:03 |
| waltminer | no | 22:03 |
| waltminer | https://www.gotomeeting.com/join/254247485 | 22:03 |
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