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| MikeJoel | what is the difference between #1 lithium grease and #2? | 00:33 |
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| MikeJoel | and - does anyone know anything about old tractors? | 00:33 |
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| AlisonChaiken | MikeJoel this is a channel about automotive software, specifically Automotive Grade Linux and GENIVI. | 04:57 |
| AlisonChaiken | While I do have some Phil Wood white lithium grease that I use to pack rollerblade and bicycle bearings, it is not an area in which I'm expert. | 04:58 |
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| kanupatar | hi all | 08:56 |
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| CTtpollard | hi | 09:01 |
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| kanupatar | hi all | 10:41 |
| kanupatar | May I get some info about GENIVI Media Manager projetc | 10:42 |
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| CTtpollard | kanupatar: have you looked at the wiki? http://wiki.projects.genivi.org/index.php/Media_Manager | 10:48 |
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| CTtpollard | gah, basing a gdp image off ivi8, and the commits of oe,poky & qt5 recommended in ivi8 I can build and deploy. However the launcher can't execute due to missing EGL | 11:22 |
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| CTtpollard | This might be the same issue the raspi build had, I'll investigate further | 11:28 |
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| CTtpollard | heh what do you know, that fixed it | 11:33 |
| * CTtpollard adds to the list of upstreaming fixes | 11:33 | |
| CTtpollard | so this is gdp running on Koelsch, using ivi8, and the recommended commits from oe, poky & qt5 | 11:35 |
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| CTtpollard | 3.10 kernel | 11:39 |
| wschaller_ | yay | 11:39 |
| pedroalvarez | good | 11:42 |
| * pedroalvarez wonders what the fix was | 11:42 | |
| CTtpollard | pedroalvarez: the pclCustomLibConfigFile.cfg with the missing / wrong link | 11:42 |
| kanupatar | CTtpollard: thank you. | 11:46 |
| kanupatar | CTtpollard: I was cross checking the info | 11:46 |
| pedroalvarez | ahh! :) | 11:47 |
| paulsherwood | kanupatar: what info are you seeking? | 11:47 |
| kanupatar | paulsherwood: Was looking at the media manger :) | 11:48 |
| paulsherwood | kanupatar: ack. i believe final day for bids for phase 2 is today... are you working on that? | 11:48 |
| kanupatar | "Quotes shall be sent to Philippe Robin, GENIVI PMO Lead, by not later than 27 November. A mid-December award is planned." | 11:49 |
| paulsherwood | kanupatar: the deadline was extended, because of Thanksgiving | 11:50 |
| kanupatar | paulsherwood: I just thought of understanding the internals..sorry I was reading it in some archive | 11:50 |
| kanupatar | paulsherwood: ahh okay. | 11:50 |
| kanupatar | paulsherwood: by the way, I was checking some other info in the architecture | 11:50 |
| kanupatar | Basic intention is to STUDY and understand | 11:51 |
| paulsherwood | kanupatar: i believe the current implementation is more poc level, phase 2 aims to achieve more robust architecture | 11:51 |
| kanupatar | paulsherwood: ok. So the implementation should be in R-Car M series? | 11:55 |
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| paulsherwood | kanupatar: i'm not sure what the current implementation supports, but the overall aim is for a solution that can work both for genivi and agl, and both are targeting R-Car in general | 11:57 |
| kanupatar | paulsherwood: thank you. May be Porter or Koelsch board | 11:58 |
| paulsherwood | kanupatar: true. currently both support porter i think | 11:59 |
| kanupatar | paulsherwood: sorry, both? | 11:59 |
| paulsherwood | both agl and genivi | 12:00 |
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| kanupatar | paulsherwood: okay. thanks | 12:26 |
| * kanupatar is checking any high resolution audio playback options | 12:27 | |
| * kanupatar as far as I see none of them supporting it | 12:27 | |
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| waltminer | === AGL Dev meeting starting === | 13:01 |
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| paulsherwood | lots of attendees :) | 13:04 |
| waltminer | MOST driver update | 13:05 |
| paulsherwood | was there any update on the 'which kernel' discussion? | 13:05 |
| paulsherwood | waltminer: ^^ | 13:05 |
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| * paulsherwood notes that the primary minutes of this meeting will appear at https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/dev-call-info | 13:08 | |
| waltminer | Permanent link to latest snapshot build is now available at https://download.automotivelinux.org/AGL/snapshots/master/latest/ | 13:09 |
| waltminer | JTA intregration | 13:09 |
| waltminer | New Jenkins instance created for JTA and login creditentails to Nuohan | 13:10 |
| waltminer | CES Demo update | 13:11 |
| waltminer | Microchip shipped demo hardware to Japan and it is up and running | 13:11 |
| waltminer | HVAC device hardware is available and they have tested the software using the console from AMB down through the stack | 13:12 |
| waltminer | Missing the Qt AMB plugins for the application | 13:12 |
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| waltminer | HVAC demo hardware will be shipped to Japan in time for Monday’s integration meeting | 13:24 |
| waltminer | Discussion of how to connect the qml code to AMB ensued | 13:37 |
| waltminer | Need to identify who will mount the hardware so it looks good | 13:39 |
| waltminer | Walt to talk to Nori later today about building the demo mount | 13:42 |
| waltminer | and shipping it to Las Vegas | 13:42 |
| paulsherwood | waltminer: http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/automotive-discussions/2015-November/001192.html | 13:43 |
| * paulsherwood believes renesas can follow mainline as well as intel? | 13:47 | |
| waltminer | Walt did a poor job of describing the situation | 13:48 |
| paulsherwood | i think porter support was mainline around a year ago, for example | 13:48 |
| paulsherwood | fulup is saying renesas continues to support LTSI... while that is true, they are successfully getting stuff into mainline, so there's no good reason mainline can't be used by AGL | 13:50 |
| paulsherwood | fulup also expresses concern about drivers working... but if agl is *ever* to move forward, the drivers it uses need to get to mainline anyway... sticking with old versions just increases the pain imo | 13:52 |
| paulsherwood | s/to mainline/forward/ | 13:52 |
| * paulsherwood may have mischaracterised... sorry | 13:52 | |
| paulsherwood | to clarify - *i* said 'so there's no good reason mainline can't be used by AGL' | 13:53 |
| kooltux__ | current RC for LTSI: http://ltsi.linuxfoundation.org/releases/ltsi-tree/4.1.13-rc1-ltsi/release-candidate | 13:58 |
| waltminer | Fulup and Stephane both stated that kernel version is not as important as the overall BSP. AGL app dev do not care about kernel versions, they want a reusable app API | 14:02 |
| * paulsherwood has previously commented on BSP http://www.devcurmudgeon.com/what-does-bsp-stand-for.html | 14:05 | |
| rjek | +∞ | 14:07 |
| paulsherwood | TL, DR; we should be aiming for mainline as far as possible | 14:07 |
| waltminer | Short discussion on usage of Poky 1.9, 2.0 or 2.1 | 14:07 |
| waltminer | to be continued | 14:07 |
| waltminer | === AGL Meeting ended === | 14:07 |
| paulsherwood | waltminer: was it a deliberate choice to minute in the wiki, rather than just tpye here? | 14:08 |
| waltminer | the wiki references the IRC channel | 14:08 |
| * paulsherwood is not complaining... he struggles to handle meetings/minutes | 14:08 | |
| waltminer | I tend to keep the official action items in the wilki and the general discussion on IRC | 14:09 |
| paulsherwood | waltminer: yup, but things that you write in the wiki don't show up until *after* the meeting (when you save it) ... so folks can't comment on them in realtime | 14:09 |
| paulsherwood | it might be less work for you (but also less tidy) to just type everything here and copy it to the wiki | 14:10 |
| waltminer | true, but the wiki edits are in real time on the screen and people tend to comment on IRC as I write those | 14:10 |
| paulsherwood | waltminer: ack | 14:11 |
| waltminer | now it is time for more coffee | 14:11 |
| paulsherwood | :) | 14:12 |
| waltminer | who gave rjek an infinity card? | 14:12 |
| rjek | I have a small stash of them here. | 14:12 |
| * rjek distributes some around the channel liberally. | 14:12 | |
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| paulsherwood | +∞ | 14:13 |
| paulsherwood | seems to work :) | 14:13 |
| waltminer | I tried to buy some when I was in Japan, but now I lknow where they all went | 14:13 |
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| Tarnyko | waltminer: did not mention during the DevMeeting since we ran out of time, but : | 14:16 |
| Tarnyko | waltminer: I have some code for the CES demo, AM/FM radio panel ; which consists in 3 patches | 14:16 |
| waltminer | ok | 14:17 |
| Tarnyko | waltminer: it goes in all 3 repos : meta-agl (https://github.com/iotbzh/qml_radio_plugin), meta-agl-demo, CES2016 ; will try to push them from this afternoon if you're ok | 14:17 |
| waltminer | sounds good to me | 14:18 |
| Tarnyko | waltminer: thanks ! adding this as a topic for the next DevMeeting would also be great :) | 14:18 |
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| CTtpollard | do genivi baseline versions have required poky versions, beyond the commit sha's listed in the included readme? | 14:38 |
| paulsherwood | CTtpollard: if you mean 'does compliance require a specific poky version' the answer is no | 14:40 |
| CTtpollard | how can a compliance predict the future? | 14:42 |
| paulsherwood | i don't understand your question | 14:42 |
| CTtpollard | for example genivi8 / meta-ivi requires poky, and gives and branch (version) and known working commit. If I then take a version of poky n versions in the future, surely it is then complaint to genivi8? | 14:43 |
| CTtpollard | *it is not then complaint | 14:44 |
| CTtpollard | sorry | 14:44 |
| CTtpollard | compliant | 14:44 |
| pedroalvarez | compilance might not require specific poky versions, but might require specific versions of components included by poky | 14:44 |
| paulsherwood | yup | 14:44 |
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| jbocklage | was there a Weekly Developer Call today? | 14:47 |
| paulsherwood | jbocklage: yup | 14:48 |
| jbocklage | sh*t... missed it... | 14:49 |
| CTtpollard | so it would require a new version of poky to carry all the recipes used in a previous version to which meta-ivi was based off | 14:49 |
| paulsherwood | jbocklage: walt is tidying up the minutes i think | 14:49 |
| paulsherwood | CTtpollard: 'it' meaning 'compliance' ? | 14:49 |
| CTtpollard | in this case, yes. To be declared as n compliant | 14:50 |
| jbocklage | paulsherwood: ok... | 14:50 |
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| paulsherwood | there was some discussion here, but not much today... most was on the call | 14:51 |
| jbocklage | I'm annoyed about myself | 14:54 |
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| jbocklage | wanted to talk about the JIRA tickets we created | 14:59 |
| paulsherwood | ah. sadly some folks seem to arrive here only for meetings. maybe ping the list? | 14:59 |
| jbocklage | true, true | 15:04 |
| Tarnyko | just verified, the AMB Qt/QML plugin is correctly built on the image (/usr/lib/qt5/qml/amb/libambqtquick.so) | 15:23 |
| Tarnyko | waltminer: ^^ | 15:23 |
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| Tarnyko | just pushed a patch for AM/FM radio reception : https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/#/c/4393/ | 15:29 |
| jlrmagnus | Weekly RVI meeting | 15:31 |
| jlrmagnus | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/jaguarlandrover.com/rvi-vehicle?authuser=0 | 15:31 |
| Tarnyko | jlmagnus: meeting linked to the JLR CES2016 demo ? possible to join ? | 15:35 |
| Tarnyko | jlrmagnus: ^^ | 15:36 |
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| jlrmagnus | Nope. This is RVI internal. | 15:36 |
| jlrmagnus | RVI only | 15:36 |
| Tarnyko | ok, got it | 15:36 |
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| waltminer | jblockage - I am looking at the Jira issues | 16:13 |
| waltminer | do you want to send an email to the list about the LTP test failures and reference the Jira issues or should I add them to the dev meeting next week? | 16:14 |
| waltminer | opps should be jbocklage | 16:15 |
| Tarnyko | hmm, apparently someone vandalized the "connectivity" wiki page (https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/subsystem/connectivity?do=revisions) (ofall ? who is this ?) | 16:25 |
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| waltminer | I reverted to the previous version | 16:26 |
| Tarnyko | waltminer: thanks, was looking at how to do it | 16:27 |
| waltminer | you’re welcome | 16:27 |
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| jeremiah | rjek: Sorry I was so rude in my email. On re-reading its clear I jumped the gun. :( | 18:44 |
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| waltminer | aeiche: How is HVAC goimg? | 21:22 |
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| aeiche | aeiche, We're still ramping up here. | 22:24 |
| aeiche | Ooops | 22:24 |
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| aeiche | waltminer, We're ramping up. I've had mixed success getting the platform to run, and then the QML apps on top of that. Porter board or QEMU | 22:25 |
| aeiche | And Matthew is now freed up to work on the plugin | 22:25 |
| waltminer | Do you have a Porter board? Not sure if you did | 22:26 |
| aeiche | Yes, we have a few - I've got one at my desk, and I'll get one for Matthew. | 22:26 |
| aeiche | Let me pull him in here. | 22:26 |
| waltminer | There is an integration session in Tokyo on Monday where Microchip will pull together the HVAC hardware components, porter board, speakers, etc/ | 22:27 |
| waltminer | We had a discussion during the dev call this morning that Yuri from Microchip has the back end running | 22:28 |
| aeiche | Excellent | 22:29 |
| waltminer | They have tested it with console commands | 22:29 |
| aeiche | Matthew has been looking at the QT plugin architecture | 22:29 |
| aeiche | My biggest roadblock has been building the platform with the apps. | 22:30 |
| aeiche | There seem to be a handful of ways to get all the right stuff built and running. | 22:31 |
| waltminer | We talked about scheduling a call with you this week to talk about that and how to proceed with the plug-ins | 22:31 |
| aeiche | Is there a canonical method? | 22:31 |
| aeiche | It'd be great to have such a call. | 22:31 |
| aeiche | The only thing I can think of that'd get in the way is Thursday morning I've got a GENIVI group call | 22:32 |
| waltminer | i have been using the method described here https://wiki.automotivelinux.org/agl-distro/source-code | 22:34 |
| waltminer | It looks like you created a similar page for the Porter board | 22:34 |
| waltminer | I buiilt the code for the porter, but not tried to run it | 22:34 |
| aeiche | Yes - after I went through the README, I copied out the page to make it more accessible. | 22:35 |
| aeiche | But that only gets me through boot | 22:35 |
| aeiche | and - starting up Weston I think. | 22:36 |
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| waltminer | what about the DemoApps/CES2016/README.md and the instructions for starting the app? | 22:39 |
| aeiche | Let me take a look at that. | 22:39 |
| waltminer | I have used the first method, but not tried the second | 22:40 |
| waltminer | how about 9 am tomorrow your time? | 22:43 |
| waltminer | for a call? | 22:43 |
| aeiche | We have our standup at 9:30, but I can probably get out of that. | 22:43 |
| aeiche | Who else can make it? | 22:44 |
| waltminer | Earlier would be better so we can have Tanikawa on the phone. but realistically it would have to be 6 am your time 11 pm Japan time. We want to include Microchip in Germany | 22:44 |
| waltminer | or we could do it piecemeal with Germany in the morning and Japan in the evening | 22:45 |
| waltminer | I figure since you cannot attend next week Tanikawa will have to drive the integration in Japan | 22:46 |
| aeiche | I haven't seen Matthew for a while, I want his input because I think he'll need/get more out of the meeting | 22:46 |
| aeiche | Okay | 22:50 |
| aeiche | We've got Microchip providing hardware | 22:51 |
| aeiche | That is, the CAN stuff, right? | 22:51 |
| aeiche | What is Tanikawa working on? | 22:52 |
| rjek | jeremiah: I forgive you. (I've not read it yet.) | 22:55 |
| aeiche | Okay waltminer, I can't find Matthew, but I'm going to commit us to the 9:00am PST meeting | 22:57 |
| aeiche | And we can do one later in the day the accommodate Japan as well. | 22:57 |
| * rjek reads email and still forgives jeremiah | 22:59 | |
| rjek | :-) | 22:59 |
| waltminer | Ok . I will set it up | 23:01 |
| aeiche | Hmm | 23:02 |
| aeiche | I don't have a /opt on my build. | 23:02 |
| waltminer | Ok. You need to install the demo image. Hold on a sec | 23:03 |
| waltminer | add IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " CES2016-demo" | 23:04 |
| waltminer | to local.conf | 23:04 |
| waltminer | I think you missed it in the README because I do not see it on your wiki page | 23:05 |
| aeiche | ahh | 23:06 |
| aeiche | ok | 23:06 |
| aeiche | Hmm | 23:08 |
| aeiche | I've got IMAGE_INSTALL = " CES2016-demo" towards the end of my local conf file. | 23:08 |
| waltminer | it should be IMAGE_INSTALL_append | 23:12 |
| aeiche | IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " CES2016-demo" | 23:14 |
| aeiche | That's what I've got sitting in my file. | 23:14 |
| waltminer | ok | 23:14 |
| aeiche | Two things after it | 23:14 |
| aeiche | IMAGE_FSTYPES +="vmdk" | 23:15 |
| aeiche | which I guess I don't need... | 23:15 |
| aeiche | and IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " \ | 23:15 |
| aeiche | weston-ivi-shell-config \ | 23:15 |
| aeiche | " | 23:15 |
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| waltminer | in my local conf I do not add the weston config | 23:17 |
| waltminer | I have no idea if that means anything | 23:17 |
| aeiche | What do you set your machine target to? | 23:18 |
| aeiche | should be something like porter-board? | 23:19 |
| aeiche | oh, nevermind, I got it. | 23:20 |
| * waltminer is not minding | 23:20 | |
| aeiche | Allright. Rebuilding | 23:21 |
| aeiche | This might take a minute | 23:21 |
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| aeiche | Welcome Matthew | 23:45 |
| mvick | Howdy! | 23:45 |
| aeiche | waltminer, mvick is our C++ guy who's going to be working on the QT Plugin to bridge AMB to Qt/QML | 23:45 |
| waltminer | Great | 23:46 |
| waltminer | welcome mvick | 23:46 |
| mvick | Thank you! | 23:46 |
| waltminer | I sent out a meeting invite for tomorrow morning | 23:47 |
| aeiche | Thanks waltminer | 23:49 |
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