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| Tarnyko | morning | 07:48 |
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| fredcadete | good morning | 08:49 |
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| paulsherwood | hi! | 08:53 |
| tcouniha | morning | 08:54 |
| dl9pf | morning! | 09:04 |
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| jeremiah | morn! | 09:04 |
| tcouniha | new toy this week - test driving LTE home router | 09:07 |
| tcouniha | looking like I'm going to have to give my existing service provider the boot - with some pleasure | 09:07 |
| paulsherwood | heh | 09:07 |
| tcouniha | I feel like I've finally arrived - I can remember the heady days of ISDN with nostalgia | 09:09 |
| rjek | For a long time the fastest internet I could get at home was ISDN2 | 09:21 |
| tcouniha | I hear you - when I built my house - and I'm beyond rural here - I sunk a 14 core telecom cable from roadside into my house - now that was optimistic thinking - the irony now is I'm serviced old and new via wireless and zero signs of the local telco ever getting close to me | 09:37 |
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| tcouniha | I think perhaps I'm so old now I take great pleasure in looking for ironic situations :-) Kinda like a mental suduko | 09:39 |
| tcouniha | or maybe just mental ... or is that irony again .. I don't know ..... | 09:40 |
| rjek | tcouniha: Yeah, we were out in the countryside. Highest level of technology for miles was a tractor. | 09:41 |
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| * paulsherwood still remembers a project to implement FAX | 09:56 | |
| paulsherwood | ... and another to implement CR-ROM standards | 09:57 |
| paulsherwood | CD-ROM | 09:57 |
| JEEB | I still remember sending faxes a few years back in Japan | 09:57 |
| JEEB | threw me way back in time | 09:57 |
| dzen | done that 10 years ago, with the hylafax project | 09:57 |
| paulsherwood | dzen: you mean implement fax itself? i'm talking about writing the code for fax machines, when they were new :) | 09:59 |
| JEEB | was CD-ROM stuff the red book spec stuff? | 09:59 |
| * CTtpollard has never sent or received a fax | 09:59 | |
| paulsherwood | iirc yes | 09:59 |
| dzen | paulsherwood: awww | 09:59 |
| paulsherwood | :) | 10:00 |
| * rjek helped write some fax management software that used a USRobotics Sportster 14k4 modem | 10:02 | |
| rjek | Oh god it was awful | 10:02 |
| paulsherwood | yup, that's the kind of thing :-) | 10:04 |
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| * JEEB is happy that he only has to deal with the quirks and specifications of the digital multimedia world | 10:05 | |
| JEEB | (not that it is sane, either, of course) | 10:06 |
| fredcadete | I still remember using something called "make" | 10:06 |
| fredcadete | you had to be careful with tabs vs spaces in a specific syntax construct called "recipe" | 10:07 |
| fredcadete | it was insane, I am glad noone uses it anymore | 10:07 |
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| paulsherwood | lol | 10:34 |
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| CTtpollard | Did anybody attend the FSA demo at Genivi AMM, if so did the gui use the standard nav app but shrunk, with what I presume is a boarder layer around it? | 11:55 |
| CTtpollard | I've noticed after trying to run the FSA scripts on the modified build that the nav app changes dimensions, and the scripts makes reference to the layer ID of it | 11:58 |
| CTtpollard | ok, rebooted, started nav app, and then executed fsa script. I have a shrunk nav layer & fsa over the top of it | 12:00 |
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| waltminer | Good morning. AGL Call starts in 5 minutes | 12:55 |
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| paulsherwood | == AGL Developer Meeting Starts == | 13:01 |
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| paulsherwood | manuel, stephane, paul, walt so far | 13:02 |
| waltminer | Michael and Christian as well | 13:02 |
| paulsherwood | :) | 13:02 |
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| paulsherwood | johan too | 13:03 |
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| paulsherwood | update on backporting MOST driver to the AGL kernel | 13:04 |
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| yannick | hi all | 13:04 |
| paulsherwood | christian still working on this | 13:05 |
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| paulsherwood | everyone mute... maybe it's waltminer's fault | 13:06 |
| paulsherwood | yup | 13:06 |
| waltminer | No I am muted now | 13:06 |
| * paulsherwood wonders, wrt the kernel, could we not move forward, rather than backport? | 13:07 | |
| paulsherwood | christian wonders how to make yocto patch the kernel on the first run | 13:08 |
| paulsherwood | suggestion is to mail christian's bbappend to the ml | 13:09 |
| waltminer | paulsherwood wrt to kernel version I have that on the agenda. | 13:10 |
| paulsherwood | christian wonders about url for hosting the patches | 13:10 |
| paulsherwood | if multiple patches, put them alongside the bbappend | 13:11 |
| * paulsherwood wonders if they could be hosdted on a server instead | 13:12 | |
| paulsherwood | suggestion is to also look at out-of-tree build later? | 13:15 |
| * paulsherwood proposed using a known git repo for linux, and maintaining branches there | 13:19 | |
| paulsherwood | but AGL doesn't currently host a kernel | 13:19 |
| paulsherwood | waltminer mentions he's been discussing with gkh how this should work for LTSI | 13:20 |
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| paulsherwood | waltminer suggests we need to deal with new functionality case, but also LTSI patches case | 13:21 |
| * paulsherwood suggests it woudl be possible to collect latests patches (eg LTSI) mostly automatically | 13:25 | |
| paulsherwood | currently AGL is not using LTSI kernel at all | 13:25 |
| paulsherwood | waltminer comments that renesas is mainly contributing to mainline | 13:26 |
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| * paulsherwood asks why AGL cant just use mainline... since renesas and other boards are already well supported and we'd get MOST for free | 13:27 | |
| paulsherwood | waltminer notes that historically AGL proposed to use LTSI - maybe that doesn't make sense at this point | 13:27 |
| paulsherwood | waltminer wonders about how to handle backporting in general | 13:28 |
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| paulsherwood | LTSI is only 2 years... long term in automotive is a lot longer than that | 13:29 |
| * paulsherwood has to leave the meeting, sorry | 13:29 | |
| paulsherwood | (too many meetings at this time) | 13:29 |
| waltminer | ok thanks paulsherwood | 13:29 |
| * paulsherwood hopes to return soon | 13:29 | |
| nuohan | I think the problem is are we going to add a lot patches based on LTSI kernel? | 13:31 |
| waltminer | Jan-SImon working on adding latest snapshot link to download server. Should be done today | 13:34 |
| nuohan | Yes, what is the status of the uploading problem | 13:34 |
| nuohan | 20MB? | 13:35 |
| waltminer | yes | 13:35 |
| waltminer | hard limit for uploading changesets to gerrit is 20 MB | 13:35 |
| nuohan | ahhh, I see, I will try it later | 13:35 |
| waltminer | ^^^ Discussion of JTA issues | 13:36 |
| nuohan | sorry， I didn't get the last word | 13:37 |
| waltminer | Jan-Simon will provide nuohan with a Jenkins account. He needs your email address so he can provide credentials | 13:37 |
| nuohan | ok, i will connect to you later | 13:37 |
| waltminer | Any other JTA issues? | 13:38 |
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| nuohan_ | no problem right now, thanks | 13:39 |
| waltminer | leon-anavi what is going on with systemd changes 4353 and 4355 in AGL gerrit? | 13:40 |
| leon-anavi | hi waltminer | 13:40 |
| leon-anavi | let me see | 13:42 |
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| waltminer | Michael says Porter integration with MOST works very well locally | 13:43 |
| waltminer | Qt apps are not appearing in the build | 13:44 |
| dl9pf | MAGE_INSTALL_append = " CES2016-demo" | 13:44 |
| dl9pf | IMAGE_INSTALL_append = " CES2016-demo" | 13:44 |
| dl9pf | ^^^ add to conf/local.conf | 13:44 |
| dl9pf | meta-qt5 in now on jethro branch | 13:46 |
| dl9pf | https://gerrit.automotivelinux.org/gerrit/gitweb?p=AGL/AGL-repo.git;a=blob;f=default.xml;h=12c977d233805056305cf4d04a7b7cc758b96e94;hb=refs/heads/master | 13:47 |
| dl9pf | = Discussion on date for integration F2F | 13:51 |
| dl9pf | = week 50 is in discussion (9th dec) | 13:52 |
| leon-anavi | waltminer, sorry, I forgot to post a review with my comments. | 13:55 |
| leon-anavi | I will need some help to figure out the most appropriate way to fix my changes. | 13:55 |
| waltminer | ok | 13:57 |
| waltminer | === AGL Meeting ends === | 13:58 |
| paulsherwood | thanks folks | 13:59 |
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| wschaller | jonathanmaw, have you had any more luck with weston-launch? | 14:02 |
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| jonathanmaw | wschaller: I've found the place in the code where weston-launch complains about not being given a tty. I'm surprised by how it responds to having "tty" passed into it, so I'm hacking some logging into the source code to find out what's actually happening. http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/2.0/dev-manual/dev-manual.html#using-a-quilt-workflow has been helpful for showing how to see what the source code comes out as, and how t | 14:04 |
| jonathanmaw | o alter it | 14:04 |
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| jonathanmaw | alternatively, I could use gdb, but I've learned how to reliably add patches in yocto, this way | 14:05 |
| jonathanmaw | (hopefully reliably, haven't tried it to completion yet) | 14:06 |
| wschaller | great, that will be very useful I'm sure | 14:06 |
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| * CTtpollard looks at quilt | 14:08 | |
| CTtpollard | that's quite neat | 14:09 |
| CTtpollard | definitely a more efficient method | 14:11 |
| jonathanmaw | I'm not entirely sure whether `bitbake genivi-demo-platform` will use the changes I made to the temporary source dir, so I've stored a patch made using quilt, while I see how the build does | 14:12 |
| jonathanmaw | (and whether my changes are preserved after the build) | 14:12 |
| CTtpollard | could add the patch to the append just to be sure, and tell it to clean the component | 14:15 |
| CTtpollard | if bitbake see's that it is already compiled however, I wouldn't expect it to try and re do it | 14:17 |
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| fredcadete | yocto devtool is also very useful for trying out changes to the code | 14:24 |
| fredcadete | especially as it allows you to deploy with one command | 14:24 |
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| jonathanmaw | CTtpollard: yep, it seems that building the system will have the hacky changes included if you force-build the package first | 14:58 |
| CTtpollard | jonathanmaw: good to know, ta :) | 14:58 |
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| jonathanmaw | still, it'd probably have been quicker for me to learn how to use gdb properly than multiple attempts to hack in logging :¬/ | 14:59 |
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| CTtpollard | the navi menu within fsa is pre-populated with locational info about Switzerland | 16:06 |
| wschaller | CTtpollard, any luck getting the map to display? | 16:08 |
| CTtpollard | it seems to be thinking about something | 16:13 |
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| jonathanmaw | \o/ weston-launch was having a strop because its stdin wasn't a tty, and it silently ignores the "--tty" arg unless you also specify the "--user" arg | 16:23 |
| JEEB | funky :D | 16:25 |
| JEEB | 'grats on getting it to launch | 16:25 |
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| CTtpollard | it tripped me up that west launch runs as user and not system | 16:57 |
| CTtpollard | *weston | 16:57 |
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| Tarnyko | aeiche: hi | 17:33 |
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| jlrmagnus | https://github.com/PDXostc/rvi_core/blob/mfeuer-new_key_scripts/doc/rvi_protocol.md | 18:33 |
| jlrmagnus | RVI protocol security is coming together. The document is a mix between sequences and key generation scripts. Will be broken up. | 18:34 |
| jlrmagnus | I'll go through this at today's meeting at 11:00 PST / 20:00 CET. | 18:34 |
| jlrmagnus | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/jaguarlandrover.com/rvi-vehicle?authuser=0 | 18:34 |
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