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| weston | hi all, good morning | 07:29 |
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| CTtpollard | good morning | 09:39 |
| rjek | Sadly it's a morning of the Monday variety. | 09:40 |
| JEEB | just means it's the beginning of this week's coffee input (or tea if that's your cup of tea) | 09:53 |
| rjek | :) | 09:53 |
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| CTtpollard | has anyone seen this error when trying to build the yocto genivi-demo-platform? http://paste.baserock.org/opigibikof | 11:14 |
| jonathanmaw | CTtpollard: can you confirm that you have meta-qt5 checked out? | 11:25 |
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| CTtpollard | jonathanmaw: yeh I have, I went through the layer revisions checkout stage again, I must have missed a checkout | 11:32 |
| CTtpollard | it's now building :) | 11:32 |
| jonathanmaw | \o/ | 11:32 |
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| paulsherwood | == GENIVI Tools Team Meeting Starting == | 13:02 |
| paulsherwood | Georg is demonstrating franca into Fitnesse tests | 13:02 |
| paulsherwood | Marco asks if this can do semi-automated tests | 13:05 |
| paulsherwood | Georg says this could be integrated into a cd environment | 13:05 |
| paulsherwood | PS requests that team members try migrating a small number of pages to the https://genivi-oss.atlassian.net/wiki/ so we can report if we do in fact want to go this way | 13:13 |
| paulsherwood | Pavel has noticed that it's not possible to get to the markup in this version (it's wysiwyg) | 13:13 |
| paulsherwood | PS requests that we finalize the wiki discussion/decision by next week if at all possible | 13:15 |
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| paulsherwood | GDP freeze issue is being investigated elsewhere | 13:21 |
| paulsherwood | PS asks if the CIAT SoW actually covers the requirements for GDP release | 13:22 |
| paulsherwood | SL thinks it's uncontroversial, but may be a 'horizon' document | 13:22 |
| paulsherwood | (ie how long will it take?) | 13:23 |
| paulsherwood | SL has questions about phasing and how it integrates with other things | 13:25 |
| paulsherwood | PS requests review of http://lists.genivi.org/pipermail/genivi-projects/2015-July/000581.html | 13:26 |
| paulsherwood | BIT has a focussed LAVA-poc that could be a natural input to this | 13:28 |
| paulsherwood | Is there more to think about wrt Constants in CommonAPI | 13:29 |
| paulsherwood | CommonAPI 3.1.3 does support constants :-) !! | 13:30 |
| paulsherwood | w00t :) | 13:30 |
| * CTtpollard is interested in the LAVA-poc | 13:30 | |
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| paulsherwood | Klaus undertook to write something on testing of interfaces using Franca, then someone writes a proposal for consideration by AGL + GENIVI | 13:35 |
| paulsherwood | AMM: some members can not be there. could we therefore aim for sessions afternoon/late korea time | 13:36 |
| paulsherwood | aiming for a Franca presentation | 13:36 |
| paulsherwood | action: get a slide/material regarding commonapi | 13:39 |
| paulsherwood | tools team readout | 13:40 |
| paulsherwood | PS requests who is interested in advancing implementation of the CIAT before AMM | 13:42 |
| paulsherwood | PK proposed to Joel to have conf call to discuss high-level structure for the wiki | 13:44 |
| paulsherwood | (maybe this could happen at the next tools team meeting) | 13:46 |
| * waltminer enjoyed Paul’s use of the word “riposte” in a sentence | 13:51 | |
| rjek | touché. | 13:53 |
| paulsherwood | PS proposed to try next week's meeting on IRC only. will document this request on the mailing list, seeking +1/-1 from attendees | 13:59 |
| paulsherwood | == meeting ends == | 13:59 |
| paulsherwood | et voial | 13:59 |
| paulsherwood | voila | 14:00 |
| CTtpollard | ty paulsherwood | 14:01 |
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| klausbirken | hi - I am here, finally | 14:17 |
| paulsherwood | klausbirken: welcome! | 14:18 |
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| jlrmagnus | Morning | 15:19 |
| JEEB | mornin' | 15:21 |
| * paulsherwood wonders if portland is still in a heatwave | 15:25 | |
| rjek | It's Auguest, so I expect 30-35°C? | 15:26 |
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| paulsherwood | jlrmagnus: re your reply to rfc the meeting on irc, the meeting is normally 06:00 pacific on mondays, but one thing i hope is that the meeting might 'spread'... several of us are still around now, for example, and i like that irc is asynchronous, so no need to completely close the meeting before (say) 07:00 | 15:29 |
| jlrmagnus | Ok. | 15:29 |
| paulsherwood | - for example you could join later and comment on previous discussion (unless you're already up... it seems lots of folks start early on the coast there) | 15:30 |
| jlrmagnus | I think that is a very good idea. | 15:30 |
| paulsherwood | tvm :) | 15:30 |
| jlrmagnus | I'll try to be there, although I may be a bit late. | 15:31 |
| paulsherwood | my dream is that some contributors (eg in Japan) might contribute even earlier, or later too :) | 15:31 |
| paulsherwood | jlrmagnus: great | 15:31 |
| jlrmagnus | Probably a good idea to let the meeting extend for an hour or two extra to cover more time zones and let people respond. | 15:31 |
| paulsherwood | ack. makes sense | 15:32 |
| paulsherwood | looks like the +1s have it :-) | 15:33 |
| jlrmagnus | Always worthwhile to try out new ideas. | 15:33 |
| paulsherwood | jlrmagnus: not quite always... some of my ideas are actually dangerous/illegal :) | 15:34 |
| jlrmagnus | You can always massage the idea until you get the desired benefits out of them without being arrested. | 15:34 |
| klausbirken | I am quite new to IRC (actually, I used it for one year in 1988 at university...), but let's go for it. | 15:35 |
| paulsherwood | klausbirken: that's not new, then :-) | 15:35 |
| klausbirken | 27 yrs ago, hm | 15:36 |
| paulsherwood | klausbirken: you can put 27 years of on your cv :) | 15:36 |
| klausbirken | paulsherwood: with a little break in between | 15:36 |
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| paulsherwood | :-) | 15:58 |
| radiofree | paulsherwood: i'm not sure if tools is actually covering "tools that would be very useful for ivi", but I posted about https://github.com/mchalupa/wldbg/ to the genivi-ivi-layer-management list the other day | 16:02 |
| paulsherwood | radiofree: yes, i saw that | 16:03 |
| radiofree | with a bit of work that could be really rather excellent for automated testing (etc...) of wayland clients/hmi | 16:03 |
| paulsherwood | great point! | 16:03 |
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| JEEB | talking of testing, I tried model-based testing with fmbt at my previous job. wasn't too bad and seemed to be geared for inter-app testing | 16:30 |
| paulsherwood | ooh, that looks interesting too! | 16:33 |
| JEEB | i recommend playing around with the python stuff. the c++ stuff didn't exactly seem bugless | 16:34 |
| JEEB | it seems to have stuff like weston screen capture and comparing those screenshots against some provided images | 16:37 |
| JEEB | i only did api testing with it | 16:37 |
| paulsherwood | JEEB: that would be a generalisation, for me :) c++ tends to be harder than python in many ways | 16:37 |
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| JEEB | i just remember trying to write the required api calls and logic in c++ and then just giving up and writing wrappers in python :D | 16:39 |
| JEEB | which then worked | 16:39 |
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