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| tiagogomes_ | hi pedroalvarez, I'll have a look at this with more time at some point, but why is https://gerrit.baserock.org/#/c/1538/ obsolete? | 09:52 |
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| mwilliams_ct | I'm trying to deploy a trove to openstack, following the directions at http://wiki.baserock.org/guides/deploy-trove-to-openstack/ but I keep getting the error "cp: write error: No space left on device". /dev/vdb, which mount shows holds /src, is reported by df -h to have 60.6G left. surely that's enough space? I could probably add a larger ephemeral disk if not | 10:36 |
| ssam2 | at what stage do you get the error? | 10:36 |
| ssam2 | could it be that the root disk is too small? | 10:36 |
| mwilliams_ct | this stage http://paste.baserock.org/carejiceyo . It could be the root disk is too small, that's reported as having 3.7G available | 10:37 |
| gtristan | wooooooo hoooooooo ! | 10:40 |
| gtristan | sigh, my god | 10:40 |
| * gtristan kicks gcc repeatedly | 10:40 | |
| jmacs | What's up with gcc today? | 10:41 |
| gtristan | gcc is a horrible pile of monolithic crap | 10:43 |
| gtristan | but I finally made the transition to glibc from musl, and can compile c++ programs again | 10:43 |
| paulsherwood | gtristan: bipolar, maybe? from wooo hooo to my god in under a minute? | 10:43 |
| paulsherwood | jk :) | 10:43 |
| gtristan | paulsherwood :) | 10:43 |
| gtristan | so it runs like this: aboriginal build --> 4 compilers later --> system image with musl-based native & cross-over-distcc compiler... BUT... the libstdc++ and libcc is linked against musl libc | 10:45 |
| ssam2 | argh | 10:45 |
| gtristan | one more compiler... on the image... --build=blabla-musleabi --host=blabla-musleable --target=blabla-gnueabi | 10:46 |
| gtristan | that gets you libstdc++ against the freshly built glibc | 10:46 |
| ssam2 | does that distcc nicely, though? | 10:46 |
| gtristan | after you build the gcc runtimes against glibc... c & c++ programs still distcc nicely, using the same musl-linked cross compiler | 10:47 |
| gtristan | during the actual build of the gcc... alot of it distccs... but the compilation of the actual runtimes build with build/gcc/xgcc (the in-tree gcc)... which is slow | 10:48 |
| ssam2 | right | 10:48 |
| ssam2 | maybe that could be cross built? except then you have to cross build glibc as well I guess.. | 10:48 |
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| paulsherwood | really? does upstream know? | 10:53 |
| paulsherwood | and, crucially, does downstream know? :) | 10:53 |
| gtristan | I dont think any single person working on gcc upstream really has a very clear picture of how it all fits together... vaguely perhaps | 10:54 |
| jmacs | I'm sure downstream would move if there were a credible alternative | 10:54 |
| paulsherwood | llvm? | 10:54 |
| gtristan | llvm shows promise | 10:54 |
| jmacs | For C and C++, maybe. | 10:55 |
| gtristan | apparently does not work for all targets | 10:55 |
| jmacs | But as you say, it shows promise, it's not a drop in replacement | 10:55 |
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| jmacs | I think LLVM will take over, maybe in 50 or so years. | 10:56 |
| paulsherwood | lol | 10:57 |
| ssam2 | gcc could certainly do with someone spending a year detangling its build process | 10:58 |
| ssam2 | autoconf and automake are *definitely* end of life :-) | 10:58 |
| gtristan | it could go for the X11R6 -> Xorg treatment... that would help a lot | 10:59 |
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| ssam2 | patch for GLIBC vulnerability: https://gerrit.baserock.org/#/c/1839/1 | 11:06 |
| ssam2 | not tested yet | 11:06 |
| ssam2 | whatever happened to the Baserock CVE tracker project, by the way | 11:11 |
| ssam2 | would be really useful for infrastructure maintenance | 11:11 |
| paulsherwood | iiuc rjek proved it was harded than we thought :/ | 11:13 |
| jjardon | ssam2: nice, I was about to propose the same glibc patch :) | 11:20 |
| paulsherwood | storyboard kanban is looking nice now https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/1 | 11:24 |
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| paulsherwood | ssam2: what happened to your magic links on g.b.o? | 11:32 |
| ssam2 | i don't know | 11:32 |
| ssam2 | i did just hack them into place | 11:32 |
| ssam2 | i have some time today to look at upgrading all the baserock.org infra | 11:32 |
| ssam2 | so will sort that out at the same time | 11:32 |
| paulsherwood | we need them back! :) | 11:32 |
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| mwilliams_ct | Right, so trying to deploy my openstack trove now gives me an error "RuntimeError: generator didn't stop". I'll paste the whole lot in a sec in case it's obvious to anyone | 11:56 |
| mwilliams_ct | http://paste.baserock.org/ufihokeqof | 11:57 |
| ssam2 | wow, sounds bad | 11:58 |
| mwilliams_ct | :D I like knowing I've broken things | 11:58 |
| mwilliams_ct | in new and unexpected ways | 11:58 |
| ssam2 | seems like a bug in the new FS partitioning code | 11:58 |
| ssam2 | that said... 'mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected, mounting read-only' seems suspicious | 11:59 |
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| ssam2 | maybe nobody has done this since that code was merged | 12:00 |
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| jjardon | Hi, can I get another +1 about this move? It will save a lot of rebuilds in several places ... https://gerrit.baserock.org/#/q/status:open+project:baserock/baserock/definitions+branch:master+topic:move_libxkbfile | 12:02 |
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| jjardon | Hi, can I get another +1 about this move? It will save a lot of rebuilds in several places ... https://gerrit.baserock.org/#/q/status:open+project:baserock/baserock/definitions+branch:master+topic:move_libxkbfile | 12:06 |
| ssam2 | mwilliams_ct: does it work if you deploy to rawdisk ? | 12:08 |
| jjardon | Hi, can I get another +1 about this move? It will save a lot of rebuilds in several places ... https://gerrit.baserock.org/#/q/status:open+project:baserock/baserock/definitions+branch:master+topic:move_libxkbfile | 12:08 |
| mwilliams_ct | ssam2: I'll investigate, looks like I've borked something though as it's demanding rebuilding... gonna try spinning up on another machine using ybd at the same time for speed | 12:09 |
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| franred | jjardon, how moving things from x-generic to x-common is going to save rebuilds? grepping by x-generic and x-common, it says that the former is present in 18 systems and the later in 28 | 12:12 |
| franred | anyway... it is merged now | 12:13 |
| jjardon_ | franred: if I upgrade the xserver I do not have to rebuild the whole gnome stratum | 12:13 |
| franred | jjardon, then it will save rebuilding in the gnome system, but it will affect the rebuild to rest of the systems if Im not wrong. | 12:15 |
| jjardon_ | franred: other stratum probably incorrectly build-depend on x-generic | 12:16 |
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| paulsherwood | pedroalvarez: did you already try bumping commonapi to 3.1.5? | 13:08 |
| pedroalvarez | paulsherwood: yes http://git.baserock.org/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/baserock/baserock/definitions.git/log/?h=baserock/pedroalvarez/genivi-l0.2 | 13:11 |
| paulsherwood | pedroalvarez: can we merge it? | 13:19 |
| paulsherwood | there's been some discussion about moving forward on list | 13:19 |
| pedroalvarez | i believe it's ready to be sent as a patch | 13:20 |
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| pedroalvarez | paulsherwood: I saw the discussion, that's why I attepted the move to give some feedback | 13:27 |
| pedroalvarez | i was waiting for something from BIT | 13:27 |
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| paulsherwood | i think they were waiting for feedback. have you seen Steve's email today? | 13:46 |
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| ssam2 | wow, dnf has a 'needsrestarting' command | 14:29 |
| ssam2 | which yum also had it seems | 14:29 |
| paulsherwood | so the magic is dnf distro-sync? | 14:56 |
| paulsherwood | (for a public-facing fedora machine that might have glibc in use?) | 14:56 |
| ssam2 | or just `dnf update` | 15:08 |
| ssam2 | not magic though, it just installs packages | 15:08 |
| jjardon | or use gnome-software and the integrated offline system upgrade feature :) | 15:09 |
| ssam2 | i'm still not sure offline upgrades can be considered a feature | 15:10 |
| ssam2 | more of a workaround | 15:10 |
| locallycompact | I have a fun error | 15:12 |
| locallycompact | I used my patch to upgrade to ansible 2.x, but when I run ansible 2.x I get this https://paste.fedoraproject.org/324093/45572192/ | 15:13 |
| ssam2 | wow, that looks fun | 15:15 |
| ssam2 | maybe python isn't linking against pthread correctly? | 15:15 |
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| ssam2 | https://bugs.python.org/issue3770 is from 2009 and seems to refer to a Python unit test | 15:16 |
| ssam2 | that does point to python's 'configure' script as the probable issue | 15:17 |
| locallycompact | as in it's bugged or we're using it wrong? | 15:18 |
| ssam2 | don't know | 15:18 |
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| ssam2 | ANNOUNCEMENT: there will be some downtime on Baserock infrastructure this afternoon while I upgrade some of the machines. It should not be more than a few minutes at a time, unless I mess something up (which is likely) | 15:19 |
| ssam2 | argh, I forgot how broken Ansible is with Fedora 23 | 15:21 |
| pedroalvarez | anyone against me stoping mason from building things that it's going to rebuild because of the glibc change? | 15:34 |
| * pedroalvarez goes ahead | 15:38 | |
| paulsherwood | go ahead :) | 15:42 |
| paulsherwood | pedroalvarez: any eta for the glibc patch? | 15:51 |
| pedroalvarez | paulsherwood: for it to be in definitions? or for it to be in our infra? | 15:52 |
| pedroalvarez | definitions: has been merged | 15:52 |
| paulsherwood | has it? | 15:52 |
| pedroalvarez | infra: the build is taking some time | 15:52 |
| paulsherwood | i just looked, couldn't see anything | 15:53 |
| pedroalvarez | sorry, I was wrong | 15:53 |
| pedroalvarez | it is not merged: https://gerrit.baserock.org/#/c/1839/ | 15:53 |
| pedroalvarez | there wasn't any reason to stop mason.. :/ | 15:54 |
| paulsherwood | shall i build it first to test, or just review? | 15:54 |
| ssam2 | i've built it | 15:54 |
| ssam2 | still waiting for a full system though | 15:54 |
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| paulsherwood | do you want to just build a full system or build and test? | 15:55 |
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| ssam2 | paulsherwood: both | 15:59 |
| paulsherwood | ack | 15:59 |
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| pedroalvarez | /me wonders if gtristan was refering to this conversation https://irclogs.baserock.org/latest.log.html#t2016-02-17T10:40:39 | 16:11 |
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| locallycompact | This is what definitions will look like with submodules everywhere https://github.com/locallycompact/definitions/commits/lc/submodules | 16:14 |
| paulsherwood | wow :) | 16:17 |
| jjardon | locallycompact: is it me of you change the order of the fields? | 16:17 |
| locallycompact | not intentionally, python's yaml.dump does what it wants | 16:18 |
| jjardon | :) | 16:18 |
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| ssam2 | locallycompact: use ruamel.yaml like the migrations do | 16:19 |
| paulsherwood | +1 | 16:19 |
| * locallycompact sees the migration scripts | 16:28 | |
| paulsherwood | locallycompact: won't you need to make definitions_version_8_migrator.py into an official migrator, under /migrations/ ? | 16:28 |
| locallycompact | I only committed that to save it for me, I didn't realise we were collecting | 16:28 |
| jjardon | ssam2: hi, what was the name of those visualization tools you used in definitions? I think they could help me a lot to reorganize things | 16:29 |
| paulsherwood | ack. the principle is, downstream users may need to migrate their own definitions too | 16:29 |
| locallycompact | sure | 16:29 |
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| ssam2 | jjardon: are you thinking of one in particular? | 16:37 |
| ssam2 | jjardon: I've experimented with rdflib-web, and a D3 'circle packing' visualisation | 16:37 |
| ssam2 | both were just prototypes though | 16:37 |
| ssam2 | i am looking at visualisation tools on a project currently, but not sure at this point if that will be public or if it will go anywhere | 16:37 |
| jjardon | ssam2: Id like something similar to jhbuild dot, but for our definitions :) | 16:38 |
| paulsherwood | jjardon: can you expand on what you need? | 16:38 |
| jjardon | paulsherwood: one minute | 16:38 |
| paulsherwood | it may be possible to adjust the output of some existing scripts... | 16:39 |
| ssam2 | yes, generating Graphviz is not too hard | 16:39 |
| paulsherwood | for you, maybe :) | 16:39 |
| jjardon | paulsherwood: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/v83xhvSJ/gedit.png | 16:40 |
| paulsherwood | you *want* something like that? :) | 16:40 |
| paulsherwood | jjardon: i guess you are aware that our transitive dependencies mean that there is missing info in definitions | 16:42 |
| jjardon | paulsherwood: thats a somewhat complex example; but yes it would be helpful to visualize the dependency graph | 16:42 |
| jjardon | paulsherwood: It would be ok to refer to strata instead individual chunks, but to the chunks inside the same stratum | 16:43 |
| paulsherwood | mwilliams_ct: wouldn't it be possible to frab the concourse-scripts to output a mini-pipeline for (say) a stratum, that had boxes for all of the stratum contents, with their internal build-depends, and the build-depend strata as inputs, not decomposed? | 16:45 |
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| locallycompact | The strata dependencies as inputs to every chunk? | 16:48 |
| paulsherwood | so texinfo-tarball would have as inputs build-essential, ncurses, perl. ncurses would have build-essential, perl would have build-essential | 16:50 |
| paulsherwood | (for example, if the pipeline was core) | 16:50 |
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| locallycompact | So build-essential is a task or a resource or both? | 16:52 |
| paulsherwood | task is a box? | 16:52 |
| locallycompact | task is a glowing box | 16:52 |
| paulsherwood | if the pipeline is core, only chunks in core would be tasks. b-e would be a resource | 16:53 |
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| locallycompact | so that resource is essentially a cached stratum artifact | 16:53 |
| paulsherwood | for foundation's pipeline, core would be a resource etc | 16:53 |
| paulsherwood | yup | 16:53 |
| paulsherwood | to be clear, i'm not even sure this would be run (although it might be) just may provide the visualisation jjardon is seeking | 16:54 |
| locallycompact | then yes, it's a valid pipeline but we have no way currently of making "new stratum artifact" meaningful to the ci | 16:55 |
| paulsherwood | would it be possible to create and view the pipeline, irrespective of whether it could actually be run? | 16:55 |
| paulsherwood | (for visualisation purposes only) | 16:56 |
| locallycompact | Would need to write/steal the logic for that | 16:57 |
| jjardon | paulsherwood: for reference , jhbuild dot has the --clusters option to do exactly that: group modules from metamodule together | 17:02 |
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